How to Spec Protection: A Talent Guide (3.0-3.1)

Awesome post.

I like that you list the class talents that are negated by other classes eg BattleShot v Might. Many people miss this when sorting builds within their guild.

My only suggestion is that it might be worth listing something like ....

Standard - take it and dont argue
Recommended - good choice for points left
Situational - take only if applies
Not Recommended - Not recommended, seriously

at the start of the talents. Recommended could be taken as being more important than standard on a first read. Or maybe you do mean it that way even

Again really great post that many should find helpful.

Fair enough, I just think that it deserves a note as the best filler talent for Ret going (personally, I'd stick 4/5 in it).
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I was actually in the process of doing some "rough math" based on my Malygos attempts tonight. 5/5 SotP would have given me 210k extra damage for the raid, where I figured my 3/5 Conviction only gave me 135k of my damage. But if I wanted to keep PoJ I could only afford 3/5 SotP, which would give me 129k damage (and lose the 135k from Conviction) making them roughly even. I'd say overall SotP is better, but it's slight by my poor math. I don't think I'll be changing my spec until I find there's a bigger difference.

I remember reading the original thread in the WotLK forum, but I looked a few times and never could find it again by the time WotLK came out and I wanted to try and maximize myself, lol.

Hopefully next 25-man Patchwerk I can go through and get better numbers for it all to retest myself, since that's probably the most fair fight in terms of being able to use the 96969 rotation most effectively.
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I would like to withdraw my previous comment about Benediction. Knaughty has convinced me.
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In Soviet Russia, shield slams YOU!
Chuck Norris is my off tank.

Awesome post. definitely using this as a reference.

Also, you doubled up on Tier 9. I was reference what you had and looking at my current spec and I couldn't figure out what I missing. Drove me nuts.

Thanks again.

Imp HoJ is also handy on malygos where you can have a similar cooldown to deathgrip for stunning sparks. there are a lot of fights where HoJ is useful if you get used to using it where possible, but on KT, i still enjoy my glyph of exorcism (also handy against demo locks in arena) which is a 15 second interupt (though also tied to gcd).

i think people take their talent decisions to personally. i spec the way i do cause it fits the way i play. and i adjust it based on content. if 2 points here vs 2 points there breaks you, then something else probably went wrong too. HoJ is also a cheap alternative to consecration to grab that extra mob. its pve uses are often underrated because its so situational, but having the 'perfect spec' is something you may have to worry more about in t8...
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