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Eanin's Failsafe Uncrushability Guide

Eanin
You're definitely uncrittable. All you need is 490 defense for that. However, you're crushable. In Sandbox, the number you want to shoot for is 67.07 "avoidance", and you're at 63.72.

Some combination of Legguards of the Resolute Defender, Gauntlets of the Chosen (I noticed you're Scryer), Crystalforged Sword and Shield of the Wayward Footman will put you over. Also, you should definitely get +15 defense to chest for 1% uncrushability right there (it's the best chest enchant by far right now). +15 agi to gloves and +12 defense to bracers give a lot of uncrushability, too. And change your shoulder gems Smile.
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Nephthys
Ok this is a stupid stupid question.

Having read these forums for a few weeks I have managed to get myself confused about getting an uncrushable set to AOE with and a set to tank with.

Why would they be different? I mean ok you switch a trinket for FoC and you chuck on your Petrified shield meaning you may need to make up stats somewhere else but wouldn't say a T5 tank be uncrushable and not need to worry about carrying an AOE set other than the trinket/shield swap?

I am just confused as from what I read people tend to have two sets and regem etc accordingly.

If we do need two sets (I really want to AOE grind) how really do you go about it? Just get uncrushable and gem/enchant to get there then slowly replace with stam as your gear gets really good?

This is a stupid question, I know, that is why it has taken me so long to ask Embarassed
Kaidee
You don't need an uncrushable AOE grinding set, unless you are going to be grinding bosses or other level 73 mobs. 490 def should have you more than ok for most regular (non-instance) PVE activities.
Nephthys
Hmm ok so (I have a couple of goals with this character)

1) The imba grinding at BT as that just looks awesome and profitable or pull all BM trash etc.
2) To kill Gara - again just for the sake of it
3) To tank a few guild raids

Do you not need an uncurshable set for 1) above? What makes a good AOE set then =/

Thanks for your reply btw.
Kelaan
You don't need uncrushability for tanking hordes of supplicants. In fact, I'd just put on all of your gear with block value and block rating -- as 25 attackers will eat Holy Shield charges quite quickly. (Though, redoubt should be up a fair bit, also.)

You can either try to consecrate them to death, or take the slower route and shield block them to death -- or some mix of the two. When you don't have a lot of spelldamage on your gear (as I didn't when I first made uncrushable), the slower route seems more efficient.

Don't forget your PLG. (:
blackmagik09

question

hey i like this build for gear and im new to wow and i wanna make a pally tank... now since i have the gear...can someone point me in the direction of a suitable talent spec to follow with this gear thanks!! Smile
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Magikman
Jokaa
Insanely nice guide Smile

Something i miss thou, is gem-tips for items with sockets and some kind of ranking when theres many items to choose from.
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Grimmal
I just came back from a long break not to long after getting my prot pally to 70. Been using this as a guide line to get ready and just wanted to say thanks for making the list.

Just need to finish a few instance quests now and get enchants and I should be good to go for Kara (on the off chance I find time) and Heroics.
Eanin
Sorry, CGamer, but I don't really want to turn this into a general gear check thread. If you have a specific question about uncrushability, please feel free to ask.

In terms of gems, I mentioned it a few pages back, but basically +8 defense gems for uncrushability and +12 stamina for survivability are best. Use +8 dodge, +4 dodge/+6 stamina and +4 def/+6 stamina if you want to match sockets.

I'm glad everyone is enjoying the guide Smile.
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Gwynlyn
Is there a reason this helm isn't listed on the guide?

http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=28180

Seems like its about the same quality as the Felsteel and even has a Meta Socket and is available via a quest. Just wondering. I'm still in the process of gearing up and figure I need the CE rep for the necklace anyways, why not use this helm instead of getting Felsteel made if there is not real reason not to. If I'm missing something, please let me know.
Eanin
I'm glad to hear you've really enjoyed the guide Smile.

Ulushnar pretty much summed up my reasons for not including the Myrmidon's Headdress. The felsteel helm is simply a better piece. In a lot of ways its cheaper, too, since you'll spend more on your meta gem than you would on the felsteel helm.

I think given the lack of BV in most of the gear in my guide, even the addition of the +12 def/+10% BV gem doesn't make the Myrmidon's headdress better. I'd welcome suggestions, though, on whether to add it, as BV versus armor math isn't one of my strong points.
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Meatydog
The headdress would be a easy alternative when finding a felsteel helm for sale or comeone to craft could on some servers be rather rare.

And like posted above why not get it. Its a win win, you can use it until you actually find a felsteel or sell it and get a felsteel. And at the same time your getting rep with CE.

And i have seen many people with this headress and no meta gem socketed. Not sure why cause i never thought to ask.

But it is by far one of the best quest rewards for a helm.
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