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Blood/Martyr vs Corruption/Vengeance gap closing?

Robbert
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:34 am

Blood/Martyr vs Corruption/Vengeance gap closing?

I was looking over the changes that are going up on the PTR and noticed that Blood/Martyr is getting a damage buff. I'd love to see Blood/Martyr balanced with Corruption/Vengeance such that choices made in gear and spec actually determine which is better to use.

Ashmadai
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:39 am
It's been said so many times, but Seal of Blood/Martyr are purely meant for Ret. If you use them while tanking, good for you. Your threat is maybe 1 or 2% higher than it could have been, and you're taking unnecessary damage, but you get to see bigger numbers when your judgement crits.

Seal of Blood/Martyr will never be balanced for tanking because that is not what they are for.
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Ashmadai
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:52 am
What also gets lost in these use SoB for tanking threads is this:

SoCorr = 10 expertise free. If you think the 25 dps or whatever you get out of using SoBlood is helping your threat more than the reduction in dodge and parry you get from 10 full expertise, I think you're out of your mind.
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Robbert
Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:02 pm
If you're already soft capped on expertise, which is not that hard to do with all the expertise loaded on tanking gear, then the effectiveness of the 10 free expertise is halved when looking at tps generation. Also, once you have the full vengeance/corruption stack the tps boost from expertise is further reduced as you're only doing a few extra seal holy damage with each weapon swing.

Don't get me wrong, I think Vengeance/Corruption is a great tanking seal. I'm just not yet convinced that it's our only option, and given the correct spec/gear choices it may be overshadowed by Blood/Martyr enough to warrant at least using them situationally. At the very least, expertise from gear and speccing into reckoning gain a much greater benefit from using Blood/Martyr.
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