Your Maximum Threat Potential

Have a warrior or druid stand in front. Start casting holy wrath just as the first one touches him. You should get everything in range that way.

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Meloree

Frost trap in front of you = win.
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Recently thought about a Respec and a change in my tanking habits. Improved Judgement more and more sounds better and better, just look at [item]tome of the Lightbringer[/item]!

First off my current tanking spec is: 0/51/10.

Where to gonna get 2 points for Imp. Judgement? Answer is Reckoning - additionally i would also free up 3 points für 2 more in Precision and perhaps 1 in BoK. Question is how much aggro generates Reckoning for me in some custom fight? Second question is if it would be valuable tanking with SoV AND SoR, but mainly SoV - is it comparable?
I've chosen a WWS from my last Teron Gorefiend. Here are the numbers:

• dps-Time: 4.04 - 244 Sekunden
• Consecration: 36799 holy
• SoR: 34527 holy (130 hits)
• Melee: 24087 normal (127 hits - curious being lesser hits than SoR)
• JoR: 22646 holy (18 Hits, 2 Resists)
• Exorzism: 17079 holy (13 Hits)
• Holy Shield: 11943 holy
• Greater Blessing of Sanctuary: 2470 holy
• Retribution Aura: 570 holy

...secondary effects
• Spiritual Attunement: 39776 Mana - holy, mana gain
• Judgement of Wisdom: 6808 Mana - s.a.
• Seal of Righteousness after every judgement ... 20 x 50 threat

...threat-relevant heals
• Earthshield: 18387 (0% Overheal) nature
• Prayer of Mending: 7590, 9% Overheal = 6907 (Holy)
• Lifebloom: 6064, 66% Overheal = 2062 (nature)

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• Consecration: 36799 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 71316 threat
• SoR: 34527 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 66913 threat
• Melee: 24087 * 1.02 = 24568 threat
• JoR: 22648 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 43892 threat
• Exorzism: 17079 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 33099 threat
• Holy Shield: 11943 * 1.9 * 1.35 * 1.02 = 31246 threat
• BoS: 2470 * 1.9 * 1.35 * 1.02 = 6462 threat
• Ret Aura: 570 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 1104 threat

• Spiritual Attunement: 39776 * 0.5 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 38543 threat
• JoW: 6808 * 0.5 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 6597 threat
• SoR: 20 * 50 * 1.02 = 1020 threat

• Earthshield: 18387 * 1.02 = 18755 threat
• PoM: 6907 * 0.5 * 1.9 * 1.02 = 6693 threat
• Lifebloom: 2062 * 1.02 = 2103 threat

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• Holy Dmg: 71316 + 66913 + 43892 + 33099 + 31246 + 6462 + 1104 = 254032 threat
• Melee: 24568 threat
• secondary effects: 38543 + 6597 + 1020 = 46160 threat
• Healing threat: 18755 + 6693 + 2103 = 27551 threat

overall: 254032 + 24568 + 46160 + 27551 = 352311 threat
on the whole fight's length this is approximately 1444 tps.

Additionally Procs (can't guess how to evaluate their threat) und 3 MDs - can't separate this damage from their hunters dmg.

btw.
The Gloves Enchant alone equates 29 tps - clearly shows its way better than 20 Spelldamage. A Sanctity Aura would have been 104 tps, more than a Spelldamage Totem.

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Well now the part I'm most interested in: Reckoning procced 10 times and therefore 40 Melee-/SoR-Hits are Reckoning based.

• 40/127 Melee: 24568 threat * 0.315 = 7738 threat
• 40/130 SoR: 66913 threat * 0.3077 = 20589 threat
• 7736 + 20589 = 28235 threat = 117 tps

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Seal of Vengeance:

about casting in between swing timers (shield, hammer) for tps gain i personally risk the one and other crushing on that matter. while MT'ing you get healed pretty decent enough (in BT+) to be able to eat an 8k crushing with 23k HP raidbuffed.

as for threat you are a rocket with 500+ spelldmg (raidbuffed) and the 10/8 sek rotation with casting a-shield and especially hammer when it comes to executphase.

a (gleve)rogue of my guild told me last night after tanking najentus, it was 1st time for him that he didnt have to use vanish in a bossfight, so getting the tightest rotation and useing everything possible will never let you down in terms of aggro.

(timing casts at 3.0+ swing bosses isnt really a big trouble anyway)

i got imp soc skilled (and also judged), cuz we lack on retris atm. i guess that does also a good job on your holy dmg sources (which are many once you get beaten)


btw: HI! (first post, finally regged after reading the boards for long time to contribute some expieriences to this lovely community

It is my understanding that PoM is a holy spell. If so, then it would be affected by RF.
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I was wondering, there is nothing like recount that does threat right? dumb question because I probably would've found out about it already, but worth asking? All I have is a paladin spreadsheet, but its very outdated.

edit: i have TakadinTps, I'm going to try this out, if anybody has something to help me out with, let me know. Specially a spreadsheet.

Hi, I have some questions concerning the original post.

Regarding the downranking of consecrate, I wanted to ask do you always use the highest rank of both consecrate and SoR you have until your mana runs low?

You may add http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22710 to the list of consumables. This only works for Bloodelves though, but they're easy to farm in the BE starting area.
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Hey,

I've been tanking for a while now, and am currently moving in to TK, with my first VR kill tonight (not tanking though).

A problem i've experienced a lot of times, is that the DPS'ers catch up with me pretty darned fast, in terms of threat.

(On trash) i usually just SoR -> AS -> Judge -> HS -> Cons

Then I make sure to pop HS before Cons, so they both finish cooldown at the same time, and judge/seal when appropriate.

On bosses it's SotC -> AW -> AS -> Judge -> HS -> Cons
And then the same rotation with HS first, then Cons to keep a steady rotation (not having any spell needing to 'catch up')

I still have a hard time keeping the threat at a level where I can't feel a warlock breathing down my neck
I have 409 spelldmg (which is why I wonder about TPS) and my char is here

Any good advice? I've decided I'm going to try out popping RF during combat if I'm good on mana, and see how that goes