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Worldie
Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:36 am
Correct sarkan
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'pallies need more healing'
Nicki
Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:12 pm
I would never make a warrior that is dps spec keep up thunderclap...unless they felt comfortable doing it!
3% crit in zerker stance is that 1% wipe on brutallus avoided potentially!
And also 4% does matter, its just that sunwell has taught us it doesn't matter because the damage intake is too big for it to matter...
However 400 damage is alot! due to sharaz libram its only about 250 i guess.
Causing 4% less overhealing is irrelavent and should be blotted out its not true..No tank gearing is designed to save healer mana, its designed to make you more likely to survive!
But yes Brutallus for instance hits so hard that even 4% less damage taken won't save you it could but its so unlikely that its silly...
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3% crit in zerker stance is that 1% wipe on brutallus avoided potentially!
And also 4% does matter, its just that sunwell has taught us it doesn't matter because the damage intake is too big for it to matter...
However 400 damage is alot! due to sharaz libram its only about 250 i guess.
Causing 4% less overhealing is irrelavent and should be blotted out its not true..No tank gearing is designed to save healer mana, its designed to make you more likely to survive!
But yes Brutallus for instance hits so hard that even 4% less damage taken won't save you it could but its so unlikely that its silly...
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PsiVen
Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:23 pm
Overhealing on Brutallus is around 50-60%.
Shahraz libram with Holy Shield up is pretty close to the 4% off during Stomps, unless you get quite unlucky with blocks. It's a little more sometimes, a little less others, but usually the deathblow puts you into negative 3-7k.
Anyway, the point is that the EH of all tanks at the Sunwell level is comparable, and gear choice is a bigger factor than class.
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Shahraz libram with Holy Shield up is pretty close to the 4% off during Stomps, unless you get quite unlucky with blocks. It's a little more sometimes, a little less others, but usually the deathblow puts you into negative 3-7k.
Anyway, the point is that the EH of all tanks at the Sunwell level is comparable, and gear choice is a bigger factor than class.
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Worldie
Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:22 pm
And i can show you multiple WWS of paladins tanking with high levels of avoidance, your point was?
You can't trust the %s on WWS, they are luck based.
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Worldie
Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:45 pm
The only accurate thing from WWS is damage taken. The amount of avoided hits is uninfluent. Does no good to a tank, being it a warrior, paladin or druid, if he avoids 25 hits in a row, then dies to a roflstomp
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Worldie
Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:44 am
If their DPS sucks and they don't need to drop avoidance to gain threat, that's not our fault.
Our DPS were threatcapped and our warrior had to switch a couple items with more hit/expertise (supremus ring, pepe's, etc) in order to allow them to go all out. He actually needs WF on Felmyst to keep aggro, and he knows how to tank.
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Our DPS were threatcapped and our warrior had to switch a couple items with more hit/expertise (supremus ring, pepe's, etc) in order to allow them to go all out. He actually needs WF on Felmyst to keep aggro, and he knows how to tank.
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