3.2 Frequently Argued Questions. AKA: Advanced tanking FAQ.

badgermonkey wrote:

Varmin wrote:

badgermonkey wrote:Because charity epics are the norm, and every little 12 year old and whatever other retards exist want to be able to down every content. You maybe have seen the progression to this since TBC was released (I remember working my ass off for each individual purple in vanilla!).

Nerfing raid bosses barely a week after introducing them, where most guilds haven't even REACHED them yet, makes me a sad panda.

I think the point is that most guilds haven't reached them yet.
They want most guilds to be able to kill Yogg. They want the hard modes to be the challenging parts.

Yeah, but it's been what... 1 or 2 weeks? When they first released Naxx, I don't remember everyone powering through it in that time.

Content should take time to work through. I reckon we'll see more nerfs to raid bosses before Summer comes.

I remember everyone powering through naxx in 1-2 weeks (after hitting 80). No one in my guild had seen in at 60 and after 3 total nights in the place, over the course of 2 weeks, we had it cleared.

You're including leveling time in your naxx times. But even on my fairly backwater server it was cleared in two weeks.

I'm talking about real Naxx - When it was released all those years ago, out in the plaguelands.

badgermonkey wrote:I'm talking about real Naxx - When it was released all those years ago, out in the plaguelands.

Their entire design philosophy has changed since then. Hard modes are the real tests now. You also probably don't remember too many Paladins tanking in Naxxs 40.

Jasari wrote:

badgermonkey wrote:I'm talking about real Naxx - When it was released all those years ago, out in the plaguelands.

Their entire design philosophy has changed since then. Hard modes are the real tests now. You also probably don't remember too many Paladins tanking in Naxxs 40.

Well there as this one time when all our tanks died...

Wait no, a Rogue took over >.>

badgermonkey wrote:

Jasari wrote:

badgermonkey wrote:I'm talking about real Naxx - When it was released all those years ago, out in the plaguelands.

Their entire design philosophy has changed since then. Hard modes are the real tests now. You also probably don't remember too many Paladins tanking in Naxxs 40.

Well there as this one time when all our tanks died...

Wait no, a Rogue took over >.>

Man I used to roll with full Deathbone.

badgermonkey wrote:I'm talking about real Naxx - When it was released all those years ago, out in the plaguelands.

You have to think about the fact that like every other raid instance in original wow, it had many cockblocks.

Taudark wrote:You have to think about the fact that like every other raid instance in original wow, it had many cockblocks.

WTB 6 week resistance gear grind to down a single boss.

8 4-piece T3 (T2? T2.5?) tanks?

First draft of update for 3.2

Decided not to duplicate this time round.

Has anyone looked at the Agility vs Dodge gem hybrids? I heard and read about the nerfs, but I'm not really good enough yet to fully understand the complete effects of such nerfs. right now I'm using agility/stam gems, but I'm gathering that this probably will not be my case in 3.2. Is the nerf truely that severe?

Agility and Dodge were nerfed by the same percentage, so as far as I know the relative value of an Agi/Stam gem vs. a Dodge/Stam gem should not be changing at all.

Braundo wrote:Agility and Dodge were nerfed by the same percentage, so as far as I know the relative value of an Agi/Stam gem vs. a Dodge/Stam gem should not be changing at all.

Actually agility is likely to become more valuable than dodge for gemming, since it will take 12-13% more of both dodge and agility to gain the same amount of avoidance in 3.2 as now and the armor returns off of agility are static. Now there is the reduction in DR to dodge from lower overall dodge to consider as well but given that the dodge from defense is not changing, the reduction in accumulated Dodge DR is not likely to be enough to cause the difference in avoidance from dodge and agility to be smaller in 3.2 than for most people on live.

Majiben wrote:Actually agility is likely to become more valuable than dodge for gemming, since it will take 12-13% more of both dodge and agility to gain the same amount of avoidance in 3.2 as now and the armor returns off of agility are static.

Good point! The same is true for the Crit too, I would assume.

I don't recall seeing this answered yet, but how much will the new SoV extra damage proc change the value of hit and expertise for us?

/edit: Nevermind. Just noticed that Theck's thread is updated for 3.2.