SOV 3.2 and weapon swing

Nadir wrote:Assuming you have sufficient defense rating, then a 3.2 era DPS 1H like Hellscream Slicer may be superior to Broken Promise.

It most certainly will be superior threatwise, but you'd lose a decent amount of avoidance through defense, but the agility may prove superior to that defense avoidance wise

Arnock wrote:

Nadir wrote:Assuming you have sufficient defense rating, then a 3.2 era DPS 1H like Hellscream Slicer may be superior to Broken Promise.

It most certainly will be superior threatwise, but you'd lose a decent amount of avoidance through defense, but the agility may prove superior to that defense avoidance wise

Yup, your intuition is correct. Looking at a fully raid buffed Paladin in T9.75 and mostly ilvl 245/258 items, the post DR avoidance difference between 58 AGI on the DPS 1H (and more on the ilvl258 version which surely exists) and 43 defense rating on Broken Promise is on the scale of 0.01-0.02%. The deciding factor would be your defense rating. Thankfully T9 has a relative glut of defense rating. Most Paladins will probably be over 689 without even trying, even if their weapon slot provides 0 defense rating.

trellian wrote:gem negative haste? lol, that would be a first

Wouldn't affect seal proc on HotR at all since it depends on the weapon speed and not on the time between swings.

Candiru wrote:people remember the "weapon speed doesn't really matter" from other classes with normalised attacks.

For us, with un-normalised attacks weapon speed is HUGE. Considering that weapon DPS only affects white damage and HotR damage, while weapon speed affects seal procs off HotR, the two effects are pretty similar.

Doubling the weapon speed doubles your damage of a seal proc from HotR. Its a great stat for us! Shame you can't gem it...

Won't this also be true of the Judgement seal proc? Or has that been changed?

Indeed, if Judgement procing SoV is intended.

It used to stack SoV back on the beta WOTLK which was fun for holy paladins as you could run away at 115% while judging justice on someone and stacking a 5-stack of SoV on them. You could kill anyone who wasn't a healer that way if you had enough space to run!

Now its not stacking the dot, but it is proccing the instant-damage apparently.