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[Wotlk] Maintankadin 101 - Winchester.

Fayia
Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:27 pm
"Let’s take a look at what happens after you do get “uncrushable”.
Again you have 540 Defense, but now you have 21% Dodge/Block/Parry + you have Holy Shield up.

0.01-10.00 =miss
10.01-30.40 = dodge
30.41-50.80 = parry
50.81-101.2 = block



But see what happened there, the roll is only 1-100, but the block goes to 101.2, that means 1.2% block is being wasted.
When this happens, you should start replacing Block with other avoidances.
"


Soooo..and now for the noob question of the day. If there is actually a 100 sided dice rolled and it is all miss, dodge, parry, block...um...why do we take damage at all?
KysenMurrin
Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:33 pm
Block is only a partial damage reduction. And of course there are non-physical damage sources.
Arianne
Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:56 am
Can we get the "uncrushable" terminology in this revised to "block capped" please?
Thornir
Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:01 am
Fayia wrote:"Let’s take a look at what happens after you do get “uncrushable”.
Again you have 540 Defense, but now you have 21% Dodge/Block/Parry + you have Holy Shield up.

0.01-10.00 =miss
10.01-30.40 = dodge
30.41-50.80 = parry
50.81-101.2 = block



But see what happened there, the roll is only 1-100, but the block goes to 101.2, that means 1.2% block is being wasted.
When this happens, you should start replacing Block with other avoidances.
"


Soooo..and now for the noob question of the day. If there is actually a 100 sided dice rolled and it is all miss, dodge, parry, block...um...why do we take damage at all?


1) Spells.
2) Blocked hits still hit, just not as much as normal hits based on your BV.
dragan36
Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:36 pm
Hi,

Maybe I'm too detailed or I don't know something because I'm new but:

Now let’s say you have 540 defense i.e. "uncrittable" (and therefore 5.6% more miss) and 15% chance to dodge/block/parry, the attack table would look like this:

0.01-10.00 =miss
10.01-24.40 = dodge
24.41-38.80 = parry
38.81-53.20 =block
53.21+ =hit



See what happened? The boss’s 5.6% crit chance disappeared (Because of the defense)
The chance to be hit decreases because the avoidances are taking priority on the roll.
Let’s put up the same scenario, except you have Holy shield up.

So the attack table would look like this:

0.01-10.00 =miss
10.01-24.40 = dodge
24.41-38.80 = parry
38.81-88.30 = block
88.31+ = hit


See Smile now you’re only 11.69% away from “Uncrushable” status.


I mean block ratio after holly shield should be 38.81-83.8 and instead of 11.69% should be 16,2%.

Am I right?
Winchester
Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:42 am
dragan36 wrote:
I mean block ratio after holly shield should be 38.81-83.8 and instead of 11.69% should be 16,2%.

Am I right?


Your almost right, there was an error there, but you forgot to factor in the loss of block due to the target being a boss, so 38.81-83.2 and 16.8%

I'm at a loss, i'm not quite sure how i got that number, and how it went unnoticed for so long... o_O apparantly i added 5.1% block somehow..
I have my suspicions that Libram of Repentance has something to do with this. (although that would make it a 5.33% error)

Awell, nice catch. fixed now :)
Winchester
Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:52 am

Re: [Wotlk] Maintankadin 101 - Winchester.

Fixed a bunch of stuff that has since been changed after the Wotlk release.
Alot of coeffeciants and the like have been changed since the release, and they should be accurate now.
Also edited out some stuff that blizzard has either removed or changed.

Let me know if i missed some outdated stuff.
Talents will be done later.