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There is no such thing as a defense cap, only a minimum

voitstarr
Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:31 pm

There is no such thing as a defense cap, only a minimum

ok so we all know at lvl 80 you want 540 def minimum right?

HOWEVER our MT (warrior) seems to think for raiding past nax our tanks need......650? ummm....correct me if im wrong, there is NO soft or hard cap. its 540 the minimum....right?
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Veilan
Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:34 pm
There's no cap, defense will continue to bring benefits after 535/540.

It's a great stat to have, certainly better than parry or expertise, and 650 would be much <3. Not that I can fathom how that is sanely obtainable at this point in my progression.
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fuzzygeek
Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:07 pm
Ask your warrior what benefit having 650 would have.

I mean, it'd be nice to have 650, but it's not necessary.
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rodos
Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:10 pm
Maybe he's confusing defense rating with defense skill.
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Threatco
Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:51 pm
..icly when ever you are fighting level 83 mobs.

Arrow Crit cap = 540 - [5( 83 - Mobs Lvl )

So for me who is heroics for a while as our whole guild needs gear. I can get away with 535 while maxing avoidance and EH to survive with sub-par heals.
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Nicki
Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:00 pm
The title is right

And there is no requirement in further content until a level cap raise expansion. In which case the same theory will persist.

-5.6% crit reduction to not be crit by a boss

Mob same level = 5% chance to crit
1 Defense skill = 0.04% crit reduction
Therefore 5% reduction = 125 Skill
And since a boss gains 3 levels over a mob the same level as you 1 level you need to add 3*5(in WoW levels are broken into 5s for most things just for ease ie weapon skill is 400 which is 80*5) to the defense skill. 15 defense skill = 0.6% chance to be crit.
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voitstarr
Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:28 pm
i dont remmber putting that title O.o
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Knaughty
Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:38 pm
So...

Crit-cap

/ponders what Maji will edit that to Very Happy
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mavfin
Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:57 pm
hmm, 650 would be right....

if you were tanking level 105 bosses...
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Mishakal
Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:05 pm
I was told not to bother going past the CAP! lol

I replied that its the min and that stacking it was only slightly worse than pure dodge and better than parry ...

But you cant convince some people.
Siekertr21
Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:54 am
Defense still gives you parry/dodge/block. Not like you should be avoiding it. Thats what i thought at first, i kept seeing gear with more and more defense and I kept saying to myself, "omg im already capped!". then i realized that it still ups my stats pretty decently.

So I'll agree. treat it as a minimum. not a cap.
Lore
Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:24 am
You need 41 defense rating to get 1% combined miss/dodge/parry.

You need 39.35 dodge rating to get 1% dodge.

That 41 defense rating will also increase your block chance (which is good until you're block capped) by 0.33%.

Defense is not only good, it's the best avoidance stat to stack.
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