I saw a prot paladin with Mongoose on Tempest of Chaos

Mongoose is a chance for a chance to dodge. Most the *warrior* tanks I trust denounce it as too unreliable for mitigation, and thus favor Executioner.

Paladins get a much shittier version of this chant, with a half proc rate, compared to the Warrior.

So why am I throwing away free TPS for this?

From what I can tell, Battlemaster is "supposed" to be the "tanking" enchant. Problem is, it sucks. What we need is a proc based tanking enchant that gives threat (either a specific amount, or a percent) and avoidance (or something like damage absorpsion) that is balanced for tanking (ie, for one weapon). Then make a one handed enchant for +4% threat (maybe one for dodge rating as well, though it would end up underpowered most likely), if people want something more stable. The current one handed agi enchant is too weak comparatively because it is balanced for dual weilding (as is mongoose for that matter), whereas the spellpower enchant is the equivalent of a 2-hander enchant. Hopefully WotLK will bring us something like that.
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Nottebella - 70 - Emerald Dream

I like how the early justifications for this were only based on "Well I saw a pally in t6 using it!"
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this thread needs to die in a fire, if i see a paladin using mongoose im going to go crazy...

firstly it will make weapon speed 1.764 when mongoose procs, if your SoR hits for 258 (t6 level!~) 277.89 TPS compared to the original 272 TPS and we all know how good relying on a proc is for survival *cough redoubt as crushing blow immunity, would you consider that as viable?*

You gain 4.8% dodge and 5 TPS for 10 seconds 1 time per minute or 1% dodge +2 TPS(going to be humble and add the white damage as an estimate...) vs 25~ TPS

Sorry but threat is a stat even warriors respect as the more threat you can do the more DPS the dps is free to do. Seeing some T6 paladins say theyd rather have mongoose makes me lose all respect for them.

AND mongoose does not effect AOE threat! so its useless for the very reason you use a prot paladin!
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To face death and glory with an equal smile

I tried out mongoose on my Gavel for quite some time, but... It's just not compelling. The only time I care about avoidance is when I need consistent avoidance, either constantly there to prevent crushes or on demand when I need it most. The exception is AoE tanking where reckoning/parry makes it proc far more often and become a more reliable source of avoidance, so I still use my old Gavel when I don't need as much threat (farming).

Also, ToK is nice and I would probably have gotten the one after next if we hadn't stopped killing Archimonde 6 months ago. Let em eat S3/4 weapons, they don't have an excuse for not getting good arena ratings like tanks do
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Gladiator Psiven, 70 Tankadin (retired)
Rival Psivenia, 70 Warriorlol
Psivenne, 60 Bare
Longtime addict of Space - Glory Through Conquest

I'm probably going to switch my enchant back to +40dmg until I get a Reign of Misery, then I'll go back to Mongoose on ToC (survivability) while using +40dmg on RoM. Good thing I have lots of enchanting mats...
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Moonrunner&n=Lucit

i'm gonna change from mongoose to icy..see how many threads pop up