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The definitive WotLK raid buffs/class balance post

InspiredOgre
Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:08 am
I HATE the computer/internet my stupid ass boss set up here at work... Serously, the man is a moron, Im suprised he can even plug in a computer, much less set this up, even though its a POS

In other words, sorry for the double post.
InspiredOgre
Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:10 am
UPDATE TIME

I followed this thread, but it turned into a WoW politics discussion which has no answer. Some people will encounter guilds that will never be satisfied unless they squeeze every drop of advantage they can get out of any system put in front of them, and others will find guilds that want to actually play WoW. (To be fair, thats not fair, both groups play a game they enjoy, they just dont seem to play the same game, heh.)

Anyway, here is an update of where we stand based on confirmed changes in 8850 and blue posts. I made changes to the figures below, even if WoWhead has not updated, having not yet achived critical mass to flip the update switch, Info is gotten from MMO-Champion

Attack Power Buff (We Win (longer duration, even when talented (3 min vs 10 and 30 mins))
Battle Shout +550
Talent (5/5 Commanding Presence) +688
Blessing of Might +550
Talent (5/5 Improved Blessing of Might) +688

Percentage Haste Increase (TIE)
Improved Moonkin Aura +3% (Constant)
Swift Retribution +3% (Constant)

Percentage Damage Increase (Stacking possible/close call)
Ferocious Inspiration +3% (Pet Crit Proc (10 sec))
Sanctified Retribution +2% (Constant)

Critical Strike Chance Taken Debuff (TIE (The totem now induces a debuff on enemies. Its aoe nature balences with its stationary nature (our judgment follows the target))
Heart of the Crusader +3% (Judgment Proc)
Totem of Wrath +3% (Totem, 30/40yd range 2min)

Melee Attack Speed Slow Debuff (Implimentation radically different, tank ability, unlikely to be a factor in raid stacking)
Icy Touch/Frost Fever -14% (12 sec)
Talent (3/3 Improved Icy Touch) -20% (12 sec)
3/3 Infected Wounds/Debuff -4% + 10% move speed debuff (Proc, Stacks to 5 (-20%) 12 sec)
2/2 Judgements of the Just -20% (Judgement Mod 20 sec)
Thunder Clap -10% (30 sec)
Talent (3/3 Improved Thunder Clap) -20% (30 sec)

Stat Multiplier Buff (we win)
1/1 Blessing of Kings +10% (we win)

Damage Reduction Percentage Buff (WE WIN, ours is a buff, theirs is a proc, ours has rage/RP/mana regen, theirs has nothing else.)
2/2 Grace +1% (Stacks up to 3 times, 8 sec)
@Blessing of Sanctuary +3% (10 and 30 min duration)

Percentage Increase Healing Received Buff (TIE, Imp Tree no longer effests the buff)
^1/1 Tree of Life +3%
3/3 Improved Devotion Aura +3%

Mana Regen (Priests then hunters, then us. We only refresh the buff every 8 seconds, much less often than the others.)
1/1 Vampiric Touch Grants Replenishment mana regeneration buff to up to 10 raid members on dealing damage.
5/5 Hunting Party Grants Replenishment mana regeneration buff to up to 10 raid members on specified shots.
3/3 Judgements of the Wise Grants Replenishment mana regeneration buff to up to 10 raid members on Judging.

^Tree of Life: No longer grants healing based on spirit, grants 3% increased healing received to raid.
snowwight
Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:54 pm
Looks like Grace is being changed from 3% damage reduction to 6% healing increase for the casting priest... No idea what this will mean for sanctuary.
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Candiru
Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:23 am
Has anything been said about Ebon Plaugebringer vs earth&Moon vs Curse of Elements on the US forums?

I've tried posting on the EU ones, but no blue reply.

As it stands the Unholy DK's are the only spec which buffs holy damage by 13%.

That's a huge amount to balance around, either we need an unholy Dk, or we are OP with one.
StopPokingMe
Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:15 pm
Random question but I don't know if it was asked already so this is my apology in advance if it was asked.

Since Blessing of Sanctuary is a percentage damage reduction, can it be used or stacked with Improved Righteous Fury? Can someone test this one out for me?
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Duzzit
Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:21 am
just wondering, can you see whether or not thunderjudge is UP on a mob? so you know they have the debuff.
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DeadMilliken
Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:38 am
It would be great to have an updated version of the list to be released by Blizzard or compiled...