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3.1 Patch notes

Zironic
Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:35 am
Tankpoints tells me:
Armor: 24156
Physical Damage reduction(With Fury): 62.89%

wowwiki tells me:
Armor / (Armor + (467.5 * AttackerLevel - 22167.5))

29800 / (29800 +(467,5 * 83 - 22167,5 ))

= 64.1%
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Splug
Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:28 pm
Hrm, here's an interesting possible direction. With warrior cooldowns being reduced the way they have been, there will be two tanks with stronger static defenses (druids, paladins) and two with stronger cooldowns (death knights, warriors). From each pairing, there's one "armor" tank, and one "shield" tank.

The numbers might not quite line up yet - the changes on the PTR are still incomplete - but that's starting to look like the aim. The avoidance / total EH skew is still a bit off, but using the cooldowns versus consistency and shield versus armor model allows for things to be balanced at a certain attack speed, favor one side or the other by throwing large attacks or adding more attackers, and then leveling the playing field for things like avoidance and stamina. Whether that ends up happening or not, we'll see - but it avoids the overhomogeonization that Blizzard is concerned about while driving in a direction that's either easier to balance, or harder to quantify imbalance.

-Splug
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Active raid character - death knight: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Spyte
(usually) prot warrior: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Splug
Splug
Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:17 pm
Ok, back home and able to look at my character now. It looks like I have 29700 armor with horn of winter up. However, I'm also pulling bonus armor from my cloak and necklace; replacing those two with pieces that do not include additional armor brings me down to 29054 (65.6% vs lv 80 targets). It's also worth noting I use a 2% armor metagem instead of the block value metagem.

With no buffs and my normal tanking gear, I'm at 29390 armor (65.86% DR vs lv 80). Using pieces that do not have bonus armor on them, I drop to 28718 armor (65.34% vs lv 80). I think counting the armor bonus metagem is fair because a paladin would include the benefits from the block value metagem in their total block value (though if anyone cares, swapping to a helmet with the same armor and no +% metagem drops me to 28239 armor, or 64.96% vs lv 80).

Death knight armor values will increase slightly faster - frost presence generates roughly 12.5k armor now, where shields generate roughly 8.5k armor after toughness.

How much health/avoidance do warriors sit at anyway? I'm at 29800 with no buffs using a 2% stamina increase talent that no longer exists on the PTR, and 64.51% avoidance with blade barrier active (but no other buffs).

-Splug
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Active raid character - death knight: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Spyte
(usually) prot warrior: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Splug