About Illidan

I hope this is the right area since I don't actually have anything to contribute to the subject, just very curious. So apparently due to shear mechanic it's pretty much impossible for paladins to tank Illidan himself, so for this encounter you'd have to tank one of the elementals. Anybody tried it and if so what kind of fire res set did you use? I guess you'd need as high fire res as possible, close to 300, with as high as possible defence (and resi) and tons of hp.

edit: Actually maybe if you stacked whole lot of block rating? Dunno. Disadvantaged anyway.
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If you're just as uncrushable to Illidan as any other raid boss, then Shear won't hit you. He cannot actually crush, but Shear requires that 102.4% to avoid every time.

We got a couple attempts in phase 2 Monday and I was wearing about 280 buffed FR. I got smoked pretty hard and won't be going back without 365 FR and cap defense/resil.
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Shear can't miss... 101.8 dodge, parry and block is a lot harder than with miss included. Our warrior tried tanking it in his uncrushable set, not a good idea. Really made me a sad panda to notice that.
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#1: 101.8? Wha? I think you mean 102.4. Also we most definitely can tank Illidan.

#2: 300 FR? Wha? 365 is the cap, unless you mean unbuffed, which is 295. Same fire resist setup as anyone else, FR is more important than defense.
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1: Our warrior was wearing combined 102.4% miss, dodge, parry and block without shield block. He got hit by shear. Apparently it can't be missed so you need to get 100% dodge, parry and block against lvl 73s which is easy for warriors with shield block, but not so much for us. Unless there's something we missed?

2: I ment unbuffed, 295 is close to 300 anyway.
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Even if Shear can't miss, it really shouldn't be hard for a Paladin tank in a guild that's progressed to Illidan to make up the extra 11-12% avoidance without sacrificing too much. And getting sheared isn't even a wipe, our MT actually got sheared 2 or 3 times on our first kill, and he just popped a trinket while we healed him through it.

If there's any disadvantage a Paladin has in regards to tanking Illidan, it's that we don't have Last Stand and Shield Wall available to tank him through enrages in P6.
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The danger must be growing, for the rowers keep on rowing!

Aye, I guess I'm just overreacting. If you gear up a lot it should be doable, heck I miss about 4% in my current set, tho my hp is really bad. Our tanks have taken shears and lived, our tanks have also taken shears and it wiped us. I just know that our raid leader would never have a tank that can be hit by shear, it's just not acceptable to have a random chance to wipe the raid when it can be avoided. Also the 13k hits when enraged are kinda bad. Anyway thanks for being the voice of common sense, I'll just cross my fingers and wait for the news of the first paladin actually doing it.

P.S. @Lore: You are pro, keep up the good work!

edit: Fiorina any pointers on what kind of fire rest kit you used at all? I had a talk about paladins tanking the fire elementals and they were very doubtful. Said it's perfectly doable, but they weren't sure if we can get enough hp etc in fire res gear. oO
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Does this mean that paladins are actually better tanks for Illidan? I've noticed that warriors get hit with CBs quite often since their block charges typically run out before they can activate their next one. So, they'll be a higher chance that they'll get hit with shear than a pally tank would.
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Dark Barrage shouldn't really be a concern for the Illidan tank, since he doesn't use that when he's on the ground being tanked.
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The danger must be growing, for the rowers keep on rowing!