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So i MTed kara...

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So i MTed kara...

Postby Unforgetible » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:06 am

Well last night i MTed kara for the first time (was OT in all previous raids) and i think i did good. Tanked both midnight and huntsmen at once and tanked moroes and the paladin add at the same time.

It all went good with not a single wipe, but after moroes i got a PM from my
GM : "is it ok if i replace you when we reach maiden?"
me: "do i have a choice?"
gm: "no, not realy"
me: "was my tanking bad so u want to replace me?"
gm: "naah it was good but we need more damage mitigation"
me: "but im both uncritable and uncrushable, u cant ask for more than that"
gm: "yeah well you will go tommorow night with us as a OT for the seccond half of kara".

After that i logged out. Why do ppl dont beleve in tankadins that much? My gear is full blue with some epics here and there, and i tanked it easily, i know that tankadins have a hard time with the mobs be4 curator but my warr OT could tank that part.

Im asking if you guys know why i got kicked cuz i dont.

My sig is a bit out of date so here is a armory link http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... forgetible, with raid buffs and pots im at 14.5k hp and way over 102.4% avoidance.
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Postby palouf » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:29 am

Your armory link shows 482 defense.
Download maintankading add on to be sure of your 102,4 avoidance...
Go grind some shattar reput or save badges for a new shield, you really need it and in fact it will give a lot more mitigation...

You can do fine for first part.
For second part, you can do it, but the healers will have hard time.
Btw, I never need an OT for second part.
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Postby ulushnar » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:31 am

Mitigation isn't anything to do with your health. It's about your armor and block value. That said, get rid of the bloody Strength enchant on your bracers whilst you're at it and get some proper stamina gems in your gear. If you're serious about tanking show it in your gear.

Next thing I can suggest is to replace the SH helm with a Felsteel Helm. They're usually pretty cheap from the AH and they have way more armor and no wasted points on Strength.

Also, you're not uncrittable. Uncrittable requires 490 Defense and you're sitting at 482. Fix that.

And finally, don't put commas at the end of your armory links! :)

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Postby ulushnar » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:34 am

You're not even uncrushable. I'm calculating you at 61.69% avoidance/block, even with the 35.3% from Holy Shield w/Libram of Repentance, that's only you at 96.99%.

You need to go back to school at Tankadin 101.
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Postby Uthadanin » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:36 am

I'd also like to add that on in the 2nd half of kara, other than prince and the dragons, there really isn't any tanking.

Shade- no tank
chess- no tank
curator- add tanking takes more skill than tanking the big guy.
netherspite, beam dancing means you will be tanking part of it too.
from what i know of illhoof, not really a tank fight there either.

I wouldn't take it as an insult.

I've only maintanked attumen/ midnight so far. My gear is a football field ahead of the warrior I pug with.
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Postby Unforgetible » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:42 am

The bracer enchant does suck, ill replace that one with stam. But im sitting right on 100% avoidance, instead of violet signet (which i wear for stam showoff) i use andormus tear and with that im sitting right on 100% avoidance, with some pots and buffs its over 102.4% which pushes crit and crush right off the hit table.

Btw 12 stam gems are bloody expencive, as a tankadin i have a hard time grinding money (mining does help tho), any1 got some tips on tankadin grinding?

And yeah im aware of the 2nd part of kara (aran onwards) doesnt have anything for me to tank eccept some short times on nethers red beam but ill tag along, maybe ill get lucky on some of the drops.
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Postby ulushnar » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:50 am

Unforgetible wrote:The bracer enchant does suck, ill replace that one with stam. But im sitting right on 100% avoidance, instead of violet signet (which i wear for stam showoff) i use andormus tear and with that im sitting right on 100% avoidance, with some pots and buffs its over 102.4% which pushes crit and crush right off the hit table.


Well yes. Until your holy shield charges are used, or a mob hits you from behind, or you lag and don't refresh a holy shield charge in time.

It's *always* advisable to get uncrittable without using HS, since a 200% crit is way worse than a 150% crush and getting uncrittable is trivial compared to getting uncrushable.

Unforgetible wrote:Btw 12 stam gems are bloody expencive, as a tankadin i have a hard time grinding money (mining does help tho), any1 got some tips on tankadin grinding?


Two words: Daily quests. Running the two Skettis dailies as a tankadin is an easy 24G (the birdies can't knock you out of the sky in tanking gear, and we were built for escort quests), then there's the daily heroic and normal quests for another 16 and 24g respectively. It's always worth having the best possible gems/enchants on your gear, since the first thing people will look at in a party environment is the Tank's health.
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Postby Unforgetible » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:58 am

Yeah about skettis dailys, is there some sort of preQ for those? Since the quest i can take there are normal quests (not repetable).

So far i didnt do many heroics because i was convinced im not ready for them but i guess there is no other way heh. One more question tho, is the shattar rep shield better than the 33 badge shield? Because i plan on saving by badges for the autoblocker trinket (the one for 41 badges).
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Postby ulushnar » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:06 am

Unforgetible wrote:Yeah about skettis dailys, is there some sort of preQ for those? Since the quest i can take there are normal quests (not repetable).


Only prereq is the quest from the Skyguard person right beside the Shatt FP, iirc.
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Postby Snake-Aes » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:10 am

Ulushnar wrote:
Unforgetible wrote:Yeah about skettis dailys, is there some sort of preQ for those? Since the quest i can take there are normal quests (not repetable).


Only prereq is the quest from the Skyguard person right beside the Shatt FP, iirc.
correct.
You have a few nonrepeatable quests, and the daily quests start as normal quests too, which unlocks it's own daily version(fires in skettis)
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Postby Unforgetible » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:11 am

And its the same with the escort Q?
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Postby ulushnar » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:13 am

Unforgetible wrote:And its the same with the escort Q?


The escort quest only starts if you find the Prisioner on one of his three platfoms.
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Postby grymwulf » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:14 am

I'm pretty well geared (T4ish) for a tank, and you really need to max out on HP/Def as much as possible.

I'd put a minimum of 17k hp (buffed) for Prince as even being uncrittable he can take you down in phase 2 with close to 16k dmg in less than 6s. You will also want to maximize dodge vs block/parry for prince - even PvP pally gear will help.
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Postby Unforgetible » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:30 am

Ok, thanks for all the info guys, it realy helps.
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Postby Makaijin » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:31 am

You should also try and get the ogri-la pre quests done so you can open up 4 more daliy quests in blades edge mountains. The pre-q starts from an ogre sitting down asking for help where all the Lower City vendors are in Shatt. The follow up pre-quests will require a full group of 5 to complete. Once done you get 4 more daily quests, and after some rep there is a free flightpath that lets you travel between Skettis and Ogri-la for faster questing.
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