any paladins MT archimonde?
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any paladins MT archimonde?
there's some really old post on this in the general forums but I figured better to make a new one here.
Any pallies out there done this? looks like I might end up doing it since we only have one warrior tank with gear better than me, all the others are much worse.
Managing through the fears with a 2x FW trinket bubble rotation
Even if it wasn't a pregression kill it's okay, just wondering what kind of stats you did it with.
Oh, and my GM is anal about this sort of thing so we're killing archimonde before we step inside BT, so GG me on getting easy tanking upgrades from there.
Any pallies out there done this? looks like I might end up doing it since we only have one warrior tank with gear better than me, all the others are much worse.
Managing through the fears with a 2x FW trinket bubble rotation
Even if it wasn't a pregression kill it's okay, just wondering what kind of stats you did it with.
Oh, and my GM is anal about this sort of thing so we're killing archimonde before we step inside BT, so GG me on getting easy tanking upgrades from there.
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I tanked him on one of our early tries where the Warrior tank went AFK, It was actually one of our better tries. This was before the FW nerf/change though.
Tanking isn't the problem here, yes he hits rather hard, but nothing a few paladin healers can't handle, the problem in this fight is Doomfire, its not a DPS race, its a survival race.
Tanking isn't the problem here, yes he hits rather hard, but nothing a few paladin healers can't handle, the problem in this fight is Doomfire, its not a DPS race, its a survival race.
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Healing is sensitive enough at the fears that if you don't break the fear quickly you'll have problems, however I think a fear ward/trinket rotation would probably suffice. If you can somehow get 4 fear wards (why does it have to be a Holy spell) then you shouldn't even need your trinket.
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Hurrah, after spending 2 nights of tanking him fine and wiping on him our warrior MT(who is better geared from me cause he server transfered out of an already BT guild to join friends) decided to long on and they killed him while I was sitting outside the instance dancing with my guild's feral drood. Man I love 1 tank fights, don't you?
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I tanked him yesterday on successful kill.
WWS logs:
http://wowwebstats.com/2ym5wp23pf22o?s=13025-13605
Compared to a warrior tanking kill:
http://wowwebstats.com/g1unhl64jebd5?s=5929-6444
I took quite a lot more damage than the Warrior did, I'm not sure why, our DPS was slightly lower, our fight was 9 minutes instead of 8 for the other kill, we had one very early death by one of the rogues, giving him the damage boost shard. We also had some extremely bad doomfires for melee around 50%, so I'm guessing they lost out on a lot of DPS for a minute or so there.
Looking at avoidance etc:
Me: 58.4%
Warrior: 59%
But, "mitigation" says:
Me: 6.0 %
Warrior: 5.8%
Avg hits damage:
Me: 6743
Warrior: 6873
All in all, it seems very equal in terms of mitigation, the Warrior probably has slightly better gear than me, but not any more, got 2 t6 drops from MH yesterday, total of 4 t6 now, and almost 29% dodge.
I'm a little surprise that concecration did most of my damage. I did turn off auto attack at around 20%.
Edit: I noticed something weird, I have something like 16-17% parry, but I only parried 8%? I think the Warrior has around 19-20% parrying, and he parried 18%.
WWS logs:
http://wowwebstats.com/2ym5wp23pf22o?s=13025-13605
Compared to a warrior tanking kill:
http://wowwebstats.com/g1unhl64jebd5?s=5929-6444
I took quite a lot more damage than the Warrior did, I'm not sure why, our DPS was slightly lower, our fight was 9 minutes instead of 8 for the other kill, we had one very early death by one of the rogues, giving him the damage boost shard. We also had some extremely bad doomfires for melee around 50%, so I'm guessing they lost out on a lot of DPS for a minute or so there.
Looking at avoidance etc:
Me: 58.4%
Warrior: 59%
But, "mitigation" says:
Me: 6.0 %
Warrior: 5.8%
Avg hits damage:
Me: 6743
Warrior: 6873
All in all, it seems very equal in terms of mitigation, the Warrior probably has slightly better gear than me, but not any more, got 2 t6 drops from MH yesterday, total of 4 t6 now, and almost 29% dodge.
I'm a little surprise that concecration did most of my damage. I did turn off auto attack at around 20%.
Edit: I noticed something weird, I have something like 16-17% parry, but I only parried 8%? I think the Warrior has around 19-20% parrying, and he parried 18%.
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Scarzi wrote:let a druid tank lol? ez mode k thanks.
druid would be around 500,000 damage taken...maybe less
This was our first inclination because he doesn't crush but we ended up going with a warrior. Our druid OT straps on her resto gear and decurses the whole fight and I put on healing gear and pretend to heal. This way we can put fear wards on healers instead of our tank which helps keep consistent healing going throughout the fight. Our first kill I had respecced holy and I was getting all of the fear wards and I was easily keeping up with our geared healers with my about 50/50 kara/ssc healing gear.
I would never accept the tank spot for archimonde unless our MT and both ferals were gone for the night. Paladins have neither of the advantages that druids/warriors bring to the MT spot on this fight and since it's a survival fight, paladins do bring a small amount of extra healing which is going to help so much more.
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I tanked him again yesterday, we did whole MH without Warrior, just me and the Druid tank. Druid helps decurse on Archi and I tanked him with fearward rotation (we had 5 priests in raid), I didn't equip my pvp trinket, did not pop wings tho, in case I would get feared I could bubble it. I think we killed him on 3rd try, after a few ppl died from fall damage and doomfire, we had a few new ppl there to. The only thing that is a bit tough is just when they are feared, if you get a bad streak there it can be really bad, but we had at least 1 shaman with tremor totem healing me as well, and I always had my finger on the dodge trinket just as ppl get feared.
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afraiteh, one of the things I actually found helpful for that was finding out the 2 healers closest to me, then just dispelling their fears to ensure I've got someone on me
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Afraithe wrote:I tanked him again yesterday, we did whole MH without Warrior, just me and the Druid tank. Druid helps decurse on Archi and I tanked him with fearward rotation (we had 5 priests in raid), I didn't equip my pvp trinket, did not pop wings tho, in case I would get feared I could bubble it. I think we killed him on 3rd try, after a few ppl died from fall damage and doomfire, we had a few new ppl there to. The only thing that is a bit tough is just when they are feared, if you get a bad streak there it can be really bad, but we had at least 1 shaman with tremor totem healing me as well, and I always had my finger on the dodge trinket just as ppl get feared.
Whenever I tank him, I spam cleanse a set healer during every fear. That healer is never feared for more than a split-second. I cleanse 2 healers per fear, no other tank can do that.
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Re: any paladins MT archimonde?
Jarkeld wrote:there's some really old post on this in the general forums but I figured better to make a new one here.
Any pallies out there done this? looks like I might end up doing it since we only have one warrior tank with gear better than me, all the others are much worse.
Managing through the fears with a 2x FW trinket bubble rotation
Even if it wasn't a pregression kill it's okay, just wondering what kind of stats you did it with.
Oh, and my GM is anal about this sort of thing so we're killing archimonde before we step inside BT, so GG me on getting easy tanking upgrades from there.
Almost 2 month ago:
http://wowwebstats.com/ysyjjzww55p11
To WWS above. Focus on your DPS guys. Timed ZA run has 9k raid DPS, your Archimonde raid has 7,8k, you make the fight unnecessary longer.
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Re: any paladins MT archimonde?
fiorina wrote: Focus on your DPS guys.
That is possibly the worst advice you can give for archimonde.
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Re: any paladins MT archimonde?
enbee wrote:fiorina wrote: Focus on your DPS guys.
That is possibly the worst advice you can give for archimonde.
Sure, why make fight last just few minutes, only like 4 fears, 200k dmg to tank, ofc not. It's better to get 12 healers and enjoy 15 minutes epic encounter.
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