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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby fuzzygeek » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:09 am

Anyone seen Passionario lately?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:50 am

fuzzygeek wrote:Anyone seen Passionario lately?


He posted something on the random picture thread
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Io.Draco » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:51 am

Shoju wrote:Putin just seems like a crazy man, the more that I read. I'm just not sure what to make of the guy.


On the contrary his moves are very well calculated considering what he wants to do in Ukraine.

A crazy man would already have tanks rolling through Kiev by now, but that's not happened has it? Putin took over Crimea while avoiding firing a single shot at the Ukranian troops. Kinda amusing really because he has outmaneuvered the west twice: First it was by invading which many thought would not happen and then second by doing so without actually firing shots and by limiting action to Crimea, for now at least.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Brekkie » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:50 pm

KysenMurrin wrote:Currently Russia appears to be simultaneously claiming they were invited to send in the troops to protect people, and that they haven't actually sent any troops and the forces in Crimea are local self-defense groups.


This is classic Russian doctrine. They hack the communications infrastructure in the target area to prevent word of what is actually going on from getting out too much, and then flood the news with a bunch of confusing and competing narratives so that nobody has any clear idea what is happening. Plus they defeat expectations by behaving unpredictably.

It's hard for the US to counter their moves if there is a reasonable doubt as to what is actually occurring.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:05 pm

Io.Draco wrote:
Shoju wrote:Putin just seems like a crazy man, the more that I read. I'm just not sure what to make of the guy.


On the contrary his moves are very well calculated considering what he wants to do in Ukraine.

A crazy man would already have tanks rolling through Kiev by now, but that's not happened has it? Putin took over Crimea while avoiding firing a single shot at the Ukranian troops. Kinda amusing really because he has outmaneuvered the west twice: First it was by invading which many thought would not happen and then second by doing so without actually firing shots and by limiting action to Crimea, for now at least.



But a crazy man wouldn't deny invading.

At least in conversations with UK / US journalists, he swears up and down that he has ordered ZERO troops into Crimea.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Io.Draco » Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:32 pm

But a crazy man wouldn't deny invading.

At least in conversations with UK / US journalists, he swears up and down that he has ordered ZERO troops into Crimea.


Because he wants to make some people believe that his troops are not occupying Crimea The message is not meant for you or me, or anyone in the west. It's meant for people in the east, in particular Russians.

Some suggest that perhaps he was hoping the Ukranians would resist thus giving him a pretext in that he would say there is armed conflict in Crimea and he has to roll the regular army in.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:03 am

I just remembered we're dependent of Russia for space flights to the ISS...
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Shoju » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:30 am

Klaudandus wrote:I just remembered we're dependent of Russia for space flights to the ISS...


WE don't have to be. Musk is in the final stages of testing on his manned Dragon X, and feels he could be ready for manned trips to the ISS relatively quickly. If we needed to not be dependent on Russia, It could be done faster.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:17 am

fuzzygeek wrote:Anyone seen Passionario lately?

Who?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Sagara » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:43 am

Passionario wrote:
fuzzygeek wrote:Anyone seen Passionario lately?

Who?


The tank.

'Nyway, good to read you. How's things look like on your side of the "former" *snicker* Iron Curtain?
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Passionario » Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:05 pm

Sagara wrote:How's things look like on your side of the "former" *snicker* Iron Curtain?

Not entirely unlike Germany circa early 1938.

If all goes according to plan, our family will leave the country in six months and never come back.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Sagara » Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:04 am

Passionario wrote:
Sagara wrote:How's things look like on your side of the "former" *snicker* Iron Curtain?

Not entirely unlike Germany circa early 1938.

If all goes according to plan, our family will leave the country in six months and never come back.


:-/ Best of luck, especially in light of the "Relationship" thread.
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:42 pm

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/a ... istian-fai

Of course, when you are dealing with a group of people who get their Constitutional training from the Salon and Russia Today web sites, it is difficult for them to understand that this legislation should never have been written. You see, there is already a law that protects the right of those of the Christian faith to not serve those who are clearly abhorrent to that faith.

It’s called the First Amendment.




The First Amendment was meant only to protect the Christian faith. When the founders spoke of religion, they meant the Christian religion. They did not have to keep saying the Christian religion because everyone knew that is what they were talking about.


Sadly, the original link from this was taken was quickly removed =(
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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:29 pm

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Re: Politics (formerly Election 2012)

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:13 pm

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/26/a ... y-schools/

“The bill states ‘a student may express beliefs about religion in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions. A student would not be penalized or rewarded on account of the religious content of the student’s work.’”

“At a basic level,” Badash wrote, “a student could merely write ‘God’ on a chemistry test as the answer to a question asking where water comes from. A student could also stand in class and say their religion says that gay people are sinners and going to hell, and that speech would be legally protected.”
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