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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:14 am

Sagara wrote:[...]
Short version: I'm chocked that some adults don't stop to even think for a second when giving children sensitive material. It' the lack of forethought that stuns me more than the actual purchase.

This part I understand fully. And to answer the other question, no I ahven't played GTAV (I think the last I played was 3) - it sjust not my kind of game.

But yeah, I totally get the issue with people not knowing what they are giving ignoring ratings.
(My example is me, being quite aware of D3 and actually initially refusing it, before deciding otherwise after a ponder).
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:24 am

It feels like it's going to be one of those weeks. My wife's found a (admittedly bargain-bin priced) 250 EUR doll. Sadly, our post-holydays finances don't permit us those expenses until the next month at best, which is way too late.

So she's gone in full-on shut-in mode that I shouldn't give her any kind of hope, and that she'll never get anything nice, which is halfway between "this is all your fault" and "Woe me".

She'll come around in a few days/week, but I feel like hugging the buddha on my desk for serenity.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:56 pm

Heals form tanks shouldn't produce threat. Oh, using Seal of Insight? Can't do that because shit'll run to you before the other tank can pick them up. Oh, want to use Light's Hammer to help heal the AoE damage? Can't do that all the spawning adds run right to you. It feels like I can't use half my abilities when they would best be used in certain fights because I am fighting to not over threat during add spawn points.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Darielle » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:22 pm

Light's Hammer is rebugged in 5.4 to generate no threat.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:41 pm

Darielle wrote:Light's Hammer is rebugged in 5.4 to generate no threat.


It seemed to cause Phase 2 empowered whirlwind adds on Garrosh to really like me.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Kal » Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:43 pm

Phase 2 empowered whirlwind adds cause PTSD.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:02 pm

Flex wrote:
Darielle wrote:Light's Hammer is rebugged in 5.4 to generate no threat.


It seemed to cause Phase 2 empowered whirlwind adds on Garrosh to really like me.


You know it does damage, too, right? You generally want to avoid AoE damage when those adds spawn.

If you're worried about threat from heals you could always click off Righteous Fury temporarily. I do that when I'm tanking Thok and don't want the bats on me, but still feel like dropping a hammer on them.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Darielle » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:24 pm

You know it does damage, too, right? You generally want to avoid AoE damage when those adds spawn.


To clarify,
Light's Hammmer has been rebroken since 5.4 to act like it did pre 5.2. The threat doesn't get attributed to the Paladin once again.

But yes, once you're in the Empowered Whirling part, there's basically no need whatsoever to have RF up. If your damage dealers are being smart and actually focusing their add down though, RF or no RF, you are not competing with burst single target damage killing adds within 3 seconds.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:50 am

How did you find that out? I'm pretty sure the damage component of Light's Hammer gives threat at least.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:13 am

Seembed to work fine for me in LFR, you sure about that?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby culhag » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:15 am

Flex wrote:Heals form tanks shouldn't produce threat. Oh, using Seal of Insight? Can't do that because shit'll run to you before the other tank can pick them up. Oh, want to use Light's Hammer to help heal the AoE damage? Can't do that all the spawning adds run right to you. It feels like I can't use half my abilities when they would best be used in certain fights because I am fighting to not over threat during add spawn points.

Just remove Righteous Fury if you're not supposed to pick up the adds. That's what I do.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:18 am

Just tried with a friend, it indeed generates 0 threat, BOTH the heal and the dmg.

Swapping back to holy prism until they fix it <.<
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Newsom » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:47 am

The more you know.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:47 am

For being one of the most important things you ever do in life, buying a house is just about the worst thing I've undertaken. FU to mortgage companies. FU to realtors. This is just not fun.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:16 pm

Tell me about it. We nearly got soul-crushed when we met our usual banker and announced monthly payments for up to 1500 EUR. Luckily we found another bank that shaved a couple hundred a month.

Although they DID manage to fuck up and forget about 65k on the cheque they were supposed to bring this Wed for the official Act...

And all in all it's just a gigantic mess of papers and numbers left right and center that leave you profesionally dumbfounded as to what exactly you're paying for.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Flex » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:34 pm

culhag wrote:
Flex wrote:Heals form tanks shouldn't produce threat. Oh, using Seal of Insight? Can't do that because shit'll run to you before the other tank can pick them up. Oh, want to use Light's Hammer to help heal the AoE damage? Can't do that all the spawning adds run right to you. It feels like I can't use half my abilities when they would best be used in certain fights because I am fighting to not over threat during add spawn points.

Just remove Righteous Fury if you're not supposed to pick up the adds. That's what I do.


It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:49 pm

Sagara wrote:Tell me about it. We nearly got soul-crushed when we met our usual banker and announced monthly payments for up to 1500 EUR. Luckily we found another bank that shaved a couple hundred a month.

Although they DID manage to fuck up and forget about 65k on the cheque they were supposed to bring this Wed for the official Act...

And all in all it's just a gigantic mess of papers and numbers left right and center that leave you profesionally dumbfounded as to what exactly you're paying for.


I make $592.41 too much to qualify for a grant from the government that assists first time home buyers, even though these guidelines are set up based on the following criteria.

Family of 1
Family of 2
Family of 3+

I have a family of 5. Wife, 3 kids, Me.

That's right. They expect that the amount of money that my wife and I make a year to give us the same asset pool as someone who is married with a child. What the fuck?

So, when we start going through everything, what we thought was going to be a 3.5% Down Payment is now turning into almost 8% Down Payment.

When I asked what happened, they said: "Don't you have someone in your family who can give you a gift of the difference?

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Yes. Sure, I'm going to call my rich dead uncle up, and say hey uncle joe bob millionaire, how about you float me some cash!?

At this point, I'm highly doubting that I will even find a way to buy a home. The realtor wont show us a home unless we're pre-approved. I can't get a fucking straight answer if I'm pre-approved. I can't get the mortgage people to even quote me the same numbers in back to back e-mails / phone calls. And all the while, I'm trying to work, and get shit done, and I'm dealing with my wife, who is working and BLOWING UP MY GODDAMN PHONE ABOUT IT, and the mortgage person sending me a bajillion e-mails with questions, and the realtor sounded like a parrot who can only say:

Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet? Pre-approved yet?
Pre-approved yet?

And I have spent 2 mornings, 50 bucks, and who knows how much in fucking gas driving all over town, to get all the information that the fucking bank needed so that I can be bothered with all of this, just to maybe, possibly, look at buying a home.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:31 pm

The is a horrible realisation that I'm glad my dad passed away so early that I've got some money to bring to bear. I'm no wealthy heir (he was a small-time teacher and athlete), but at least I don't show up empty-handed, which, at 30 is rare enough to elicit confidence from banks.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:16 am

Try to look at it this way: your father would be proud of having helped you even after passing away.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:39 am

Unless I win millions in a lottery, I think I'll be living in the "non-profit housing sector" (bad google translation).
Being wher eI am, I can almost guarantee that I can shape the direction and have apartment buildings erected that would suit my wants (just need someplace to put them). The rent may be higher in new buildings (the heat and energy will be lower) but hey, you don't have to get approved for a 30 year loan etc. and no downpayment (well 3 months rent circa).

Definately a cool way of handling housing.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:51 pm

but socialism!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Darielle » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:08 pm

It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.


No, your beef is still with the encounter and fellow raiders; you're not fighting game mechanics.

Here's what SHOULD happen.

Everyone in the raid is spread. When a swirl pops under them, they move out, target that add and instantly blow it up. This makes the add die in 3 seconds. EF healing threat split between 9 mobs even with RF will never compete with this kind of single target burst.

The only reason you're having trouble with this part is raiders running around like headless chickens not attacking adds. The game mechanics aren't at fault; you're only pulling threat on mobs that have 0 threat from damage dealers to begin with.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Teranoid » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:30 pm

Flex wrote:It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.



Tell your dps to stop sucking, pick an add and kill it.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:41 am

Klaudandus wrote:but socialism!

but not socialism (for once) - democractic housing.
Laws stating that the rent must be equally split based on squaremeterage for a section, and some rules bout making sure to keep an amount of money in an account to pay for running upkeep (so rent doesn't fluctuate wildly depending on what things you need to do).
With a stipulation that 1 household = 1 vote (okay, most places 2 votes, so each adult in a partnered household has a vote, but you get votes regardless of amount of people or size of apartment) - from the people living there, a board for each section is chosen (size dependant on the decisions of the annual meeting - minmum 3 though). The housing association (usually more than 1 section, ours has 3) has a board that controls the company, where the majority must be residents (you can stipulate external members as well, usually someone designated by the city, or members with particular skills) - the members of this board is either chosen by an annual general assembly (where each household in the company has 1(or 2) votes) or by a group of representatives which are chosen from each secition by that sections annual residents meeting.

I won't say there are no downsides - the strenght of this model is the residents democracy, however that is also the weakness (a majority can block something that is needed to be done, because it will increase rent more than they are willing to pay for example), but it is mitigated, in that, if a board (either section board or company board) think taht neede maintenance is not being done, they can decide to tell the section to do it, or take it to the monitoring authority, which can then tell them to do it. (requirements being that it is neededd for the upkeep of the buildinsg, or required by law or somesuch - so a failsafe to guard against stingy residents letting the buildings deteriorate unacceptably)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Worldie » Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:04 am

Teranoid wrote:
Flex wrote:It is still stupid. Garrosh has just been a series of pain in the ass bullshit annoyances where I've been fighting game mechanics more than the actual encounter. I basically have to unbind Consecrate for the fight and every so often every add from the empowered whirlwind will decide to love me no matter where they spawned.



Tell your dps to stop sucking, pick an add and kill it.

Random curiosity as I've not done garrosh hc myself, why is it bad to pick up the whirlwind adds? They were an essential nonfactor damagewise in 25 normal o.o
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