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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:04 pm

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Anyone here in proper winter countries who's got any tips for running outside in the cold?
I tend to either pack myself up too well and then boil inside my clothes, or wear too little and worry about catching a cold. :roll:

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I run outside in the winter... how cold are we talking about here? In my experience you really don't need much for running outside, even in the snow, as you just end up overheating. Even at -10 to -15 degrees all I needed was a long sleeve shirt (got mine at Adidas) and a lightweight jacket that was really just cotton and spandex fibers (hat and mitts too). But even then that could cause overheating so I'd just remove the hat and mitts as necessary.

A lot of people say to scale back on intensity and length of the run to get your lungs used to the cold weather. I never really did that and never experienced any problems. That being said, I wouldn't do a 10k run in the middle of January at -15 without having at least done a few smaller runs to get used to the air temperature.

One thing I've noticed, and I don't know if others feel this, but even though I may be perfectly fine temperature-wise during my run, I find I am absolutely freezing afterwards once I'm back in the apartment. I end up putting on more clothes than I was wearing outside!

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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Arnock » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:38 pm

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A lot of people say to scale back on intensity and length of the run to get your lungs used to the cold weather. I never really did that and never experienced any problems. That being said, I wouldn't do a 10k run in the middle of January at -15 without having at least done a few smaller runs to get used to the air temperature.




I'd forgotten about that.

On especially cold days, my lungs would start to burn a bit if I was exerting myself more than usual, it might be wise to at least take it easy for awhile until you get used to running in colder weather.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Era » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:47 am

Spike was wonderful as well, yeah. I watched Buffy rather erratically, so I haven't got 100% story continuity, but I have a general idea of what happens. Definitely prefer early Spike to late Spike, but that's often how things go, isn't it... :lol:

I run almost every day, or at least every other during busy weeks, so as the weather gradually changes I get used to the temperatures as well. Not like seriously long runs or anything, I just try to get in a regular 20-30 mins (low intensity). As for the temperatures, it's usually a stable -20C during winter, though we do get temperatures just below -30C during Jan/Feb. I mostly figure it's better to have too much clothes and sweat, than too little clothes and be cold.. :)

I've been doing my running for quite some time now (bit over a year, after an almost 2 years long break), but since it's never been serious or coached in any way (just threw on some good shoes and went for a run one day), winter running is something I figured I should look into - living in Norway and everything. There will be cold. :roll:

EDIT: Not after like serious min/maxing theorycrafting though, just noticed this thread the other day and figured I'd hear if there were any general advice/opinions on the matter! Which there were, so thanks Arnock and Nika! ^^
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:31 am

I really prefer winter running (compared to summer running) provided the sidewalks are clear. The air feels crisp and clean and you don't really have to worry too much about overheating provided you wear the right stuff (less IS more in this case, really). The only thing that'll get me down about winter running is if the wind is really kicking it up... then it's just nasty.

My current plan is to start half marathon training in January. The program indicates that you should already be able to run 5k (3.1m) 3-4 times a week prior to starting, so I've been getting my running back on track so that I'm more consistent. Doing this alongside going up progressively in squats and the like is proving to be... painful. Not joint pain, just muscle repair. Did squats on Wednesday, thighs were hurting the next day, but not enough to stop me from running. However, after my run I could barely move. Same issue today. Gah.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby cdan » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:59 am

Bananas, oysters and a hot soak. The potassium and zinc helps for some people. Makes for interesting breath anyway.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:19 am

cdan wrote:Bananas, oysters and a hot soak. The potassium and zinc helps for some people. Makes for interesting breath anyway.

I'll skip the oysters, but I'll definitely eat some bananas while having a bath tonight then! :lol:
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Era » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:30 am

Throw the oysters in the bath water and have a big tub of banana ice cream!

My favourite time of the year for running is either in the fall, when all the trees get those wonderful,fiery colours - or in the spring, just around the time when the snow is melting away and little bits of green is starting to show!
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:02 am

so I just got knocked out for a week by a sinus infection... on antibiotics. Going to try and resume my workouts next week.

What do you guys do when you're sick? work through it? take it easy? Before I got sick I was feeling great like I could do stuff but now that I haven't been exercising for a week I feel totally out of it.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:13 am

I don't work through it if I'm sick - it'll just weaken your body even more. You may feel out of it as you're getting back into it, but it was only a week off - you haven't lost all your gains. I was also just sick the past week and am only just now really getting back into it so I know how you're feeling. Keep at it. :)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Era » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:53 am

Working through it generally feels like a bad idea, yeah. As Nika says, might just make it worse, and the losses from one week off are minor! There's also a fair chance that the workout itself will feel pretty bad, which won't exactly motivate you to get back into it when you eventually recover!

Unless you're concerned about being able to get back into it after some time off. We can scoff and boast our manly-man willpower, but even as someone who loves running, there's considerable effort involved in putting my shoes back on after a week of relaxation. I love the bit when I'm out running as well as the post-exercise feeling of achievement, but I hate the part where I need to get changed and force myself out the door. :roll: :lol:
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:25 am

Just did my first winter run (-15 with the windchill - that's 5F for those of you that need Fahrenheit) and halfway through the 5k I was half thinking I should take my own advice and not run the full distance - my lungs were on frigging fire from the change in temperature. I didn't, and I feel fine now, but DAMN.

Also, I feel like a contestant on the Biggest Loser atm - went for my run then stopped in at Subway for a low calorie, low fat meal on the way back home. Bahahah.

I've done something to my shoulder (while reaching for a pen at work...) and it's been painful since Wednesday and it's just gotten worse overnight. I think I'll have to lay off any arm weights for the rest of the week which is a real shitter.

Edit: I'm also loving my Old Navy workout gear that Kat recommended me. I was paying a lot of money for Lululemon stuff (bought into the hype I guess) and on Friday I got a sportsbra, 2 pairs of pants and 2 shirts from Old Navy for the cost of ONE pair of Lululemon pants. Wore the stuff today and I cannot feel the difference. Course... now I need one in every colour. ;)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:36 am

Wrap a wool scarf around your mouth and throat if you're running in extreme cold. Wool stays warm even when wet, so it'll help warm the air even when your exhalations and sweat have soaked it.

For bottoms, try a pair of leggings under shorts (for women) with a heavier pair of sweatpants over it. For guys, just shorts and sweatpants. For tops, I recommend a long sleeve cotton shirt under a sweatshirt or windbreaker. Don't forget a watch cap or other warm headwear.

I used to hate winter running in Flagstaff. Mainly because the weather was so schizophrenic for most of the winter, and the sidewalk clearing was half-assed at best. So you'd end up with layers of snow and ice on the ground (from alternating rain/snow at the beginning of the season, which would then be packed down and compressed by insane amounts of foot traffic and miserable city clearing crews), which makes for treacherous going at the best of times. Then I bought a pair of snow chains for my shoes and it pretty much fixed the issue, although it was kind of weird for a bit trying to find my stride with the added weight and traction throwing it off. Once I got used to it it was no big deal, but I did scorch my lungs a few times until I broke down and got that scarf.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:21 am

After a week of pain, I finally visited the doctor and it looks like I may have a problem with my shoulder/rotator cuff. Went for an ultrasound and xray today... there's a nice giant black hole in the middle of my shoulder. Looks kind of like this, but a big round bubble instead of where the tear is.

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My doctor will get the results on Wednesday. I've got physiotherapy on Monday. I AM SO ANNOYED. I don't even know what the hell I did!
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:59 pm

Scored my best score to date on my physical fitness test this past Wednesday (88.7/100). Nothing to write home about, but I'm happy. Now I just need to keep myself active so I can continue to do well (and hopefully drop a few more of these extra pounds.)

I've lost around 10-15 pounds since I got to Hawaii (at 180 now.) Did a stint in the "bod pod" that our health and wellness center has (back in Sept) and was at 26% body fat... definitely room for improvement. Need to go back now that it's been a few months and see if there has been any change.

My waist was measured at a 33.5", which is definitely down (I can visibly see the difference, and if I flex properly, I can almost see my abs!)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:16 am

Congrats on your one-pack, Skye!

Nikachelle, rotator cuff tears are serious, but easily fixable. The operation itself is usually an outpatient procedure done via arthroscopy, then you're looking at (on average) around 3-4 months of physical therapy to get it back to near 100%. And your Prisoner Torturer ... err, I mean, Physical Therapist ... can give you a list of modified exercises that you can do while your shoulder is recovering that won't tax it beyond what you're ready for, but will still let you maintain your current weight or even continue to shed pounds.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:30 am

I don't know if it's a tear yet! Shoulder mobility has gotten significantly better in the last few days (oddly) and my doctor will have the actual results from the ultrasound this coming week. (The technician wasn't really giving me much to go with.)

I'm still able to run and play soccer though as none of those involve lifting my arms, so that's been decent. I'm just rather pissed about losing any strength gains I've accumulated in the past few months.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:15 am

So back in the summer, I did 4 weeks of no bread/rice/pasta, and no processed sugar/HFCS, stuck to fruits and vegetables and protein, lots of water and iced tea.

My A1C dropped to under 7 (I think it was 6.6), which made my endocrinologist almost jump up out of his chair and dance. After the 4 weeks, I quit doing it, because it was the lack of rice more than anything that I was having trouble with.

I now find I need to go back to it, on a longer basis, because I've completely fallen off the wagon. I recognize that, and am starting today to correct that. However, rather than NO, I'm keeping it to "in small doses" - I believe the NO was what contributed to me backpedalling so much.

The issue I run into is threefold:
1. food is seriously boring the hell out of me, I eat because either my body tells me to or I feel socially pressured to do so - such as Thanksgiving, I didn't start eating right away, was just passing food onward without taking any, and my mother commented, "she does that and I don't know why." So I ate (unfortunately, carb heavy as turkey is disgusting)
2. All the hype says that this will make you feel "better" and "have more energy" - but my experience is just the opposite. It made me angrier, more resentful, more violent feeling, and that was when I could be arsed to stay awake - I preferred to sleep or do something low energy. Of course, I could just be a complete mutant, since my stepfather has deigned to inform me that I'm not doing something right (he's a condescending ass 82.472% of the time, so I just ignore him)
3. I still can't find a proper motivation (vanity is not one of my sins). I'm also apparently ghoulish for maintaining the outlook that we all die sometime, can't stave that off, so what the hell is the point in "being healthier to live longer" and if it's going to be an ultimate failure anyway (and it keeps me around people longer, the majority of whom I despise being around)?

Blah. The anger and resentment mentioned in #2 is already forming. No good can come of this. I guess I just should vent more. :)
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Zalaria » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:23 pm

That sounds a lot like the paleo diet. There are some people around here who are rabidly against it, but it really helps a lot of people.

If the food is boring, have a look at google's results for paleo. There are a lot of people who post recipes to their blogs, and some of them are really good. There are replacements for almost anything you would have normally made. Hope you like cooking though, or at least don't hate it.

Something that can be hard while on paleo is keeping carbs high enough. When you're not getting all the carbs from bread/pasta/etc you have to actually keep an eye on them. That may have been the cause of #2 and the rice cravings.

Also, for #1 - it happens. Don't worry about it. People who don't eat like this don't understand it and often try to put down those who do. It sucks, but if it's your path to being healthy it's worth it. If you do give in and have a cheat day, that's ok. Just pick it back up the next day. Cheat days can make it easier to keep on the wagon the rest of the time.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Rhiannon » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:15 pm

Amirya wrote:So back in the summer, I did 4 weeks of no bread/rice/pasta, and no processed sugar/HFCS, stuck to fruits and vegetables and protein, lots of water and iced tea.

My A1C dropped to under 7 (I think it was 6.6), which made my endocrinologist almost jump up out of his chair and dance. After the 4 weeks, I quit doing it, because it was the lack of rice more than anything that I was having trouble with.

I now find I need to go back to it, on a longer basis, because I've completely fallen off the wagon. I recognize that, and am starting today to correct that. However, rather than NO, I'm keeping it to "in small doses" - I believe the NO was what contributed to me backpedalling so much.

The issue I run into is threefold:
1. food is seriously boring the hell out of me, I eat because either my body tells me to or I feel socially pressured to do so - such as Thanksgiving, I didn't start eating right away, was just passing food onward without taking any, and my mother commented, "she does that and I don't know why." So I ate (unfortunately, carb heavy as turkey is disgusting)
2. All the hype says that this will make you feel "better" and "have more energy" - but my experience is just the opposite. It made me angrier, more resentful, more violent feeling, and that was when I could be arsed to stay awake - I preferred to sleep or do something low energy. Of course, I could just be a complete mutant, since my stepfather has deigned to inform me that I'm not doing something right (he's a condescending ass 82.472% of the time, so I just ignore him)
3. I still can't find a proper motivation (vanity is not one of my sins). I'm also apparently ghoulish for maintaining the outlook that we all die sometime, can't stave that off, so what the hell is the point in "being healthier to live longer" and if it's going to be an ultimate failure anyway (and it keeps me around people longer, the majority of whom I despise being around)?

Blah. The anger and resentment mentioned in #2 is already forming. No good can come of this. I guess I just should vent more. :)


I imagine you're on some diabetes meds? And it's type 2? Depending on which ones and how they function, #2 might be a result of hypoglycemia like Zalaria alluded to.

E.g. my mum's on Gliclazide (which admittedly isn't marketed in the US, but perhaps you get others that function similarly) which stimulates her pancreas to produce more insulin. Even if she eats very little carbs, insulin production remains stimulated with the result that her blood glucose nosedives, leaving her lethargic/light-headed and irritable. In her case a reasonable supply of slow-digesting carbs kept her blood glucose a lot more stable. She still doesn't have much in the way of carb dense food apart from a daily slice of wholewheat toast, but gets enough from the dairy/veg she does eat to stave off low blood sugar (lots of greens as well as a reasonable amount of legumes, some greek yoghurt and the occasional piece of fruit).

Shot in the dark based on one symptom and not all diabetes meds function in this way, but it might be a factor.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:06 pm

Yes, it's type 2, and I'm currently on metformin, novolog insulin for meals, and lantus insulin for the slow release. During that month, I was checking my glucose levels constantly, and only once did the number ever reach in double digits; that was a 98 after I came home and slept an hour instead of eating dinner. Most of the time, it hovered around 120-130, depending on how soon after a meal I checked (which was dependent on how irritable I was).

I'm not opposed to fruits and vegetables, I generally like most fruits, and the only vegetables offhand I don't like are the sweet potato and the yam (I've heard them used separately and interchangeably, so whatever it's called, I dislike). I'm not a huge fan of birds, but I am only opposed to turkey.

That said, I'm not even sure what was causing the irritability; my roommate did it same time as me so when we had breakfast/lunch/dinner, I wasn't staring at the slice of pizza on his plate or anything. I also don't like to cook, or even do any food preparation - to me, it makes food unappetizing. To be sure, I'm having to do a bit more, as my mother's limited in what she will eat right now (lot of fresh cucumber and sumiso dressing for her). However, there were some suggestions for slow cooker meals, so that's on my to-do list.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:10 am

Being in an office environment during the month of December is a freaking caloric death trap. :evil:
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Sabindeus » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:35 pm

Nikachelle wrote:Being in an office environment during the month of December is a freaking caloric death trap. :evil:

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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Aubade » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:02 pm

I embrace the deathtrap. Someone just brought me gingerbread cookies at my desk. YES PLZ.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Amirya » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:39 pm

I am rejecting it. We have a holiday party coming up on Friday, complete with lunch.

I first refused to vote on the locale (passed my vote onward to someone else), and then I will refuse to order any food from said locale.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:46 pm

Has anyone ever tried Keto? My family started back in August. My son (5'6") went from 189 to 158 (target:150). My wife (5'2") went from 135 to 118 (target 115). I (5'8") went from 150 to 135. I technically stopped "dieting" at 140 but dropped more weight just because our eating habits changed.

It's an interesting diet.
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