Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Thels » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:17 am

Can some mod cut out the last two pages, and relabel it something with big fat SPOILER in the title?

Cuz the last two pages are exactly that, spoiling pretty much everything. :(
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Worldie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:23 am

Yeh I can do that, gimme a minute.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Worldie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:28 am

Done, the topic is now spoiler-free :)
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby bldavis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:46 pm

ty worldie :D
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Koatanga » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:10 pm

So it turns out Bliz has found a way to sort of deal with the burnout thing. You can run Flex as many times as you like in the week, and while you are loot-locked on bosses you have killed previously, you may still use bonus rolls. So if you are going for a specific item, you could theoretically run Flex three times for it, using a bonus roll each time.

This doesn't decrease the number of runs one would need to do in order to get the trinket or whatever, but at least it condenses the pain to the first few weeks.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:19 pm

What's the best way to get bonus rolls in 5.4?
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby halabar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:11 pm

Sabindeus wrote:What's the best way to get bonus rolls in 5.4?


Stuff on the Isle drops plenty of lesser charms.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby bldavis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:42 pm

so...um...
odd question

but where is the raid portal?
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby halabar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:51 pm

bldavis wrote:so...um...
odd question

but where is the raid portal?


In the mess that Garrosh made in the Vale.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Fetzie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:55 pm

bldavis wrote:so...um...
odd question

but where is the raid portal?


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There :)
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby bldavis » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:26 pm

ah ty!
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Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:55 pm

where the fuck did my dps go!?
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Amirya » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:10 pm

All ur dps r belong to Blizz.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby jere » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:24 pm

Jabari wrote:4) Lil Oondasta trashed me, but I haven't really worked on it seriously. The normal Valk/WaterSpirit/Chrominius bit won't work as you get shoved out. Anyone have a team to beat this?


Actually I found the shove to help since they nerfed haunt (or whatever that valk ability is). I did have to change out chrominus for a shardhorn (power/power breed). Edit: Also a lil' bad wolf works great too with dodge for his first turn, followed by howl and two attacks

Round1: Cast Curse of Doom, pet gets switched
Round2: Cast Geyser
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Round4: Cast survival with Shardhorn
Round5: Cast stampeed. Oon is stunned at the end of the round
Round6: Continue with stampeed (oon still stunned)
Round7: Stampeed should finish him off (he'll kill you if not)
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Thels » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:08 am

Worldie wrote:Done, the topic is now spoiler-free :)


Thanks :)
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Flex » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:57 pm

The loot acquisition from Flex raiding is pretty nice. 10 mans you get 2 drops with maybe somebody being able to use them. On our Immersius kill last night we got 7 items for the 12 people in the raid. Several people got usable loot from every kill as well.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Fetzie » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:34 pm

I got a belt and gloves in Flex on my priest in week 1, and a ring and offhand (upgrade 476 to 448!) in week 2.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Ironshield » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:04 am

Anyone else seeing crazy trash epic drops in normal SoO? We had two from the Norushen trash and then FOUR on the Sha trash last night (two of them where mail in a raid with no hunters or shamans - but still - CRAZY).

Has this been buffed or did we just use up ALL our SoO Loot Luck?
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Sagara » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:25 am

Meh, got a couple things on the two weeks we ran the thing. You probablyt just rolled all 7's on your dies.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Fenris » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:53 am

We've seen 1 trash drop after 11 boss kills so...No,not seeing it :P



P.s:i'm so happy that after all they did,i'm still useless on trash because "throw a barrel,get aggro from everything up to 2 rooms ahead" from our monk tank still works exactly the same...
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:07 am

Fenris wrote:We've seen 1 trash drop after 11 boss kills so...No,not seeing it :P



P.s:i'm so happy that after all they did,i'm still useless on trash because "throw a barrel,get aggro from everything up to 2 rooms ahead" from our monk tank still works exactly the same...


And our DPS is down from 5.3 as well.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Teranoid » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:44 am

Ironshield wrote:Anyone else seeing crazy trash epic drops in normal SoO? We had two from the Norushen trash and then FOUR on the Sha trash last night (two of them where mail in a raid with no hunters or shamans - but still - CRAZY).

Has this been buffed or did we just use up ALL our SoO Loot Luck?


We've gotten a shitload of cloaks. 3 alone off the trash before Sha of Pride the first night. Like I get it.. not everyone has a legendary cloak but jesus there are 10 cloaks that drop between bosses and trash.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Flex » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:48 am

Klaudandus wrote:And our DPS is down from 5.3 as well.


So that glyph change really hurt huh.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:25 am

Flex wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:And our DPS is down from 5.3 as well.


So that glyph change really hurt huh.


I have the feeling Blizz balanced the DPS around a prot pally running at 50% haste.

Meanwhile, my warrior co-tank went from being below me in dps charts to do 10-15k more dps in in a fight on average, not to mention threat alone.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Flex » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:37 am

Klaudandus wrote:
Flex wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:And our DPS is down from 5.3 as well.


So that glyph change really hurt huh.


I have the feeling Blizz balanced the DPS around a prot pally running at 50% haste.

Meanwhile, my warrior co-tank went from being below me in dps charts to do 10-15k more dps in in a fight on average, not to mention threat alone.


Two changes would affect prot DPS directly.

* Glyph of the Alabaster Shield now increases damage for the next Shield of the Righteous by 10% per stack (down from 20% per stack).
* Grand Crusader no longer has a chance to activate from Crusader Strike and Hammer of the Righteous, but now has a 30% chance to activate when dodging or parrying a melee attack (up from 12%).

Nothing else really changed on our end unless the 1.5% Vengeance change was super hard on us.
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