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Patch 5.4 lore and beyond [Spoilers]

Postby bldavis » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:41 pm

Jabari wrote:3) How do you open up getting Shaohao rep?

since no one has touched this yet, in the starting quest, you talk to the emperor, that gets you 250 (i think) rep
the only other way is killing the yanguol ...and probably ordos

also (not sure if this has been covered yet or not0

SPOILER!!!!

the new warchief is who i was rooting for all along, Vol'jin! and Varian is a king alliance can be proud of in the cut scenes

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Postby Sagara » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:37 pm

About that spoiler:

Alliance being proud of Varian? You must not know the same playerbase I do. I have read (and not on the official forums) players arguing Varian should have had the new Warchief-BEG- for mercy, or that they should have made Org a new internment camp.

Also, I really did like that cinematic. Hoping Jaina sin't on the fast track to raid-boss-dom, and she'll merely be a foil for future Alliance stories.
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Postby Worldie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:18 am

Quite what I was hoping for. Satisfied with the ending, both horde and alliance wise, and quite "proud" of Wrynn's decision. Merciful, reasonable, but still yet stable and strong.

Totally loving the ending of the Pandaria storyline which has been awesome all along the expansion. Hope next expansion will be on par with this.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby cdan » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:58 am

Yet more excuses for the Alliance to prove their arrogant gobschitery. As if they weren't insufferable enough as it is. :(
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Postby Worldie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:03 am

Now I'm wondering what they'll do to Garrosh...
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Andurin » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:26 am

Worldie wrote:Now I'm wondering what they'll do to Garrosh...


There is a vid on MMOchampion of what they did with him :) At least, I think that is him...
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Postby Ruldar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:32 am

Sagara wrote:Also, I really did like that cinematic. Hoping Jaina sin't on the fast track to raid-boss-dom, and she'll merely be a foil for future Alliance stories.


No kidding. I honestly don't know if I could play a raid where she was a target.
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Postby Sagara » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:40 am

I would - I mean, I'm getting ready to off Nazgrim.

It's just that she'd be that much more interesting in an agressive position where all her smarts would be shown. Make her the human face of a peaceful revolt against Varian, deeming him unfit because he spared the Horde and refuses to make "the hard choice". Throw Genn and Tyrande in, tear the dwarves apart AGAIN on the issue. In short, make the Alliance intersting because of the Alliance, not because the Horde forces them to be interesting.
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Postby Worldie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:41 am

Jaina to me seembs like becoming the "sylvanas" of the alliance, wanting to DESTROY the enemies, not giving a fuck about the how.

Though at this point, some tbc/wotlk locations make absolutely no sense time/lorewise, they should really get a bit of time to give a fix to the horrible anacronysm of the areas.

I liked what someone suggested on the forums (that got actually a blue reply saying it's a valid idea), to create a whole new content to level through 60-80, and let players visit TBC/WotLK areas through caverns of time if they fancyed.
However that would really literally require a whole expansion so doubt it will actually happen.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Teranoid » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:55 am

Ruldar wrote:
Sagara wrote:Also, I really did like that cinematic. Hoping Jaina sin't on the fast track to raid-boss-dom, and she'll merely be a foil for future Alliance stories.


No kidding. I honestly don't know if I could play a raid where she was a target.


I could. I'm as sick of her as I am of Thrall.

At least Thrall wasn't some whining psychotic bitch. Probably would enjoy it as much as Garrosh.. maybe more.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Sagara » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:01 am

Teranoid wrote:I could. I'm as sick of her as I am of Thrall.

At least Thrall wasn't some whining psychotic bitch. Probably would enjoy it as much as Garrosh.. maybe more.


Speaking of Go'el, he got some pretty nice characterization this time around. He's cleary no longer the guy that washed up on the Barrens, or even the one we met at the Maelstrom. He "feels" older, more weary, not as gentle as his Cataclysm persona, but not quite as bright-eyed as the Warchief he was.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Fetzie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:27 am

Sagara wrote:
Teranoid wrote:I could. I'm as sick of her as I am of Thrall.

At least Thrall wasn't some whining psychotic bitch. Probably would enjoy it as much as Garrosh.. maybe more.


Speaking of Go'el, he got some pretty nice characterization this time around. He's cleary no longer the guy that washed up on the Barrens, or even the one we met at the Maelstrom. He "feels" older, more weary, not as gentle as his Cataclysm persona, but not quite as bright-eyed as the Warchief he was.

Definitely not as gentle as in Cataclysm, he wanted to smash Garrosh' skull in. (highlight to read the spoiler, will be visible in quotes)
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby halabar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:52 am

Dissapointed in the cinematic..

Varian - really... ready to off Thrall, but then almost cowers when Vol'jin suprises him.
Anduin - incoming neo-pacifisim
Jaina - no balls
Thrall - still stuck on the "internment camp" thing

Need to watch the horde version to see if Vol'jin has any redeeming qualities, despite my hatred of the horde.
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Sabindeus » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:24 am

halabar wrote:Varian - really... ready to off Thrall, but then almost cowers when Vol'jin suprises him.


No way. He was just surprised. Not cowering. I really think you misread that
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Re: Patch 5.4 - Flex Raid, Siege of Orgrimmar, and more!

Postby Worldie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:40 am

From my understanding Wrynn already had in mind what to say. He was just surprised to see Voljin instead of Thrall as warchief.
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