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SoO BiS list

Postby Razeoflight » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:11 pm

was working on this and made it real tidy with links and everything so id thought id share my gearing thoughts with u guys ;)


Helm
Parry/Haste prot tier 1x meta 1x red socket Thok the Bloodthirsty
Haste/Mastery 1x meta 1x blue socket Galakras

Shoulders
Exp/Mastery 2x red socket prot tier Siegecrafter Blackfuse
Haste/Mastery 2x blue socket The Fallen Protectors

Chest
Exp/Mastery 3x red socket prot tier Sha of Pride
Haste/Mastery 3x red socket ret tier Sha of Pride


Hands
Exp/Haste 2x red prot tier socket General Nazgrim
Haste/Mastery 1x red 1x blue socket Immerseus

Legs
Haste/Mastery 2x blue 1x red socket Garrosh Hellscream

Cape
Parry/Exp/Mastery 1x red socket Legendary str tank cloak
Crit/Haste/Mastery 1x red socket Legendary str dps cloak

Belt
Haste/Mastery 1x red 1x yellow socket Iron Juggernaut
Hit/Haste 1x red 1x blue socket The Fallen Protectors

Boots
Crit/Haste 1x yellow socket Korkron Dark Shaman
Exp/Mastery 1x blue socket Malkorok

Bracers
Hit/Haste Immerseus

Rings
Haste/Exp 1 red socket Siegecrafter Blackfuse
Crit/Haste 1x red socket Spoils of Pandaria

Hit/Mastery 1 Yellow socket Korkron Dark Shaman
Exp/Mastery 1x red socket Thok the Bloodthirsty

Necky
Hit/Mastery Iron Juggernaut
Haste/Mastery AGI neck Immerseus

Weapon
1h Mace Haste/Mastery 1 red socket Siegecrafter Blackfuse
1h Sword Exp/Mastery 2x red socket Heirloom Garrosh Hellscream

Shield
Exp/Mastery 1 red socket General Nazgrim
Dodge/Mastery 2x red socket Heirloom Garrosh Hellscream

Trinkets

STR DPS Amplify with str proc trinket Thok the Bloodthirsty
TANK Stamina Cooldown reduction trinket Malkorok
STR DPS Cleave trinket with str proc Norushen
TANK Dodge Healing trinket Iron Juggernaut
TANK Stamina reduce aoe dmg on use trinket The Fallen Protectors


got to luv all that haste and mastery :D picked up prot 2 set with gloves/helm for now aiming for 4set with chest and shoulders ;)
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Schroom » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:23 pm

nice work. I was going to do one myself :P

a few notes tho.

For the boots, I consider http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=105531 being a good alternative. The reforge of crit gives you a fair lot of secondary stats, and even tho crit goves us no defensive goodies, it isn't wasted that much as, it is the best DPS stat. Especially with that 50% haste trashhold. also in almost every sim I did haste is about 2 times as good as mastery. and it helps staying at the 50% trashhold and converting stats to stamina (swaping haste gems to stamgems as the haste on items increases)


Also the bracers have to be handed with care as Hit can be very nasty if you got to much of it.

With a perfect gearsetup, surely, yes. But one needs to be very lucky to get that setup and likely has other pieces with hit-rating on them which devalue the bracers. I'm really thinking about staying with
http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=96848 with double haste.
or http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=96766 if one has access to them.

and only switching to http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=105411 if your hit-rating allows it.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Razeoflight » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:30 am

hmmn interesting have not thought of those boots yet however my idea is that as u seen there aint to much passive hit or exp of alot of the gear pieces also we will be replacing out feather so i doubt getting a couple pieces with hit like the bracers aint gonna be a biggie nice if anything.

as for the boots like we is gonna be capping out haste at 50% anyway so at some point we gonna want to stop :P and we will reach 50% for sure next tier since in current tier i am already close and with the amplify trinket and all that if things work out the way i think they will a piece like the boots could work out nicely

i could be wrong tho i dident rly count up all the stat amoungs we will be gaining and if that will be sufficient to allow for the boots lets say.

time will tell i guess

also the necky does my head in man how about this tho http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=105407 its fuckin playing dirty with an agi necky but we also took and agi cloak bk in firelands even tho that was for the extra sockets but still :P

EDIT : ah dident read ur post correctly schroom (still early in the morning at this point :P) and u make a very strong point indeed i shal add them boots !
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Schroom » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:02 am

and as I wrote. with optimal gearing -> yes there won't be a lot of Hit on the items. but you first have to get there ;-)

also I doubt you can reacht > 50% haste after having swapped every gem and enchant to something else then haste first.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Darrak » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:17 am

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=105412 is also a possibility

i'd like to get something like this BiS?? optimal hit and expertise from gear and comfortably over 50% haste
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby stumpylumps » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:01 pm

Below is a link to a spreadsheet I put together.

http://i.imgur.com/wigZErW.jpg

The top section is just a simple list of gear by slot. The middle section is the stat totals for different gear lists I put together. The bottom section is one of those gear lists in more detail. I cut off the other detailed lists as I figure it would be a little much. Stats in red are ones dropped due to reforging and blue is the gain. The right hand section are stat gains through gems and their respective totals below.

As of right now my goal is the gear list I detailed at the bottom. I am always open to suggestions though. Please let me know if I jacked anything up or if you want a copy of the spreadsheet.

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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Quinny » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:28 am

Stumpy your sheet makes me weep with joy. HUGE thank you and one to the OP as well :).

Any chance of say a google docs link or a sort by boss so I can keep track of each loot spec change as I go thru the instances. Been driving me nuts.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby fuzzygeek » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:31 am

I made this to track my own shopping list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... wTWc#gid=0

Edit: Broke Prot/Ret into their own line-items so you can see the entire table you're rolling against, and judge whether it's worth using a coin if there's too much extraneous shit you don't want.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Winkle » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:29 am

What about http://www.wowhead.com/item=105648

Gives you about 700 more haste compared to the spark for similar versions. Obviously the proc isn't useful.

I think it compares quite favourably to amplify which would net me around 1350 haste and 720 mastery.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Thels » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:30 pm

It's not a bad trinket, but you're only using half the trinket, which makes it subpar on default.

Also, it's more useful to casters than it'll ever be to you, since they can use all of the stats. Therefor, you certainly shouldn't take it while any caster in your raid can still use it.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Winkle » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:57 am

I wouldn't take it over a caster, but strength procs aren't exactly super compelling either, 14k strength is 28k attack power, somewhat insiginifcant when you can happily exceed 200k AP on normal SoO bosses.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Brokenone » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:39 am

14k strength is also a good bit of Parry.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Setokaiba » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:46 am

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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Jackinthegreen » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:02 pm

Agility gear is excluded from these lists for reasons which should be fairly obvious. Yes, it is haste/mastery, which is great, but agility gives us no practical benefit. It takes 10,000 agility to give us 1% dodge before DR as Theck showed at http://www.sacredduty.net/2013/08/08/up ... all-tanks/.
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Re: SoO BiS list

Postby Setokaiba » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:22 am

Jackinthegreen wrote:Agility gear is excluded from these lists for reasons which should be fairly obvious. Yes, it is haste/mastery, which is great, but agility gives us no practical benefit. It takes 10,000 agility to give us 1% dodge before DR as Theck showed at http://www.sacredduty.net/2013/08/08/up ... all-tanks/.

Sorry, I don't see any obvious reasons? Dodge and parry might as well be excluded from gear lists:D
Don't want to be rude today, but can you just read up on prot paladins first.

If we take stat weights as in this post - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33269#p755176

the strength value on the http://www.wowhead.com/item=105513 is only 1384*0.5 = 692.
It's not that huge, considering http://www.wowhead.com/item=105407 has 2 best stats for us.
Of course it depends on what other gear you have, but unless you lack hit, I don't see this as bad choice?

oh, and http://www.wowhead.com/item=105407 total stat sum is greater by 17
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