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Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sat May 25, 2013 9:27 am

ok, this is from a But Wait, Theres Lore! from last week?
so total credit to them for the idea

what is the ideal race/class combination?
each race can only be used for one class, and each class can only have one race
11 classes, 13? races so there will be some races not represented
just as a reminder
Races: classes:
Human Paladin
Dwarf Warrior
Night Elf Druid
Gnome Monk
Draenei Death Knight
Worgen Warlock
Hunter
Pandaren Mage
Rogue
Orc Shaman
Troll Priest
Tauren
Foresaken
Blood Elf
Goblin

for my list, i would go with
Class: Race:
Paladin Human
Warrior Orc
Druid Night Elf
Monk Panderan
Death Knight Foresaken
Warlock Blood Elf
Hunter Troll
Mage Gnome (not first pick, but Blood Elf was used)
Rogue Worgen
Shaman Tauren
Priest Draenei

so, thoughts?
what are your picks?
think i am wrong?
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Fetzie » Sat May 25, 2013 9:36 am

Blood Elf Hunter.
The best bowmen ever to walk on Azeroth were the Blood Elf rangers.

Blood Elf Bloodknight / PseudoPaladin
Traditional wardens of Quel'danas and the King/Regent

Orc Warrior.
High Overlord Saurfang. 'nuff said.

Tauren Druid.
Self-explanatory

Troll Shaman.

Undead deathknight
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sat May 25, 2013 9:43 am

Fetzie wrote:Blood Elf Hunter.
The best bowmen ever to walk on Azeroth were the Blood Elf rangers.

Blood Elf Bloodknight / PseudoPaladin
Traditional wardens of Quel'danas and the King/Regent

Orc Warrior.
High Overlord Saurfang. 'nuff said.

Tauren Druid.
Self-explanatory

Troll Shaman.

Undead deathknight

but that is only 5 classes and 4 races...
what about the other 6 classes and you arent supposed to share races with more than one class! :roll:

i completely agree with the orc
tauren druid? yes but the Nelves taught the taurens druidism so...
troll - my second choice for shaman as well

Blood Knight - strong choice for paladin

but the belf rangers- yes great bowmen, but not really a hunter - no pet
if they made MM a pet free spec, i would concede the point on that one as well and would have to rework my list
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
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Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby halabar » Sat May 25, 2013 2:41 pm

Bah, who needs a bow? Dwarf hunter, with a gun. Nuf said.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Fetzie » Sat May 25, 2013 3:50 pm

Can't really think of a class that fits with a goblin.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby halabar » Sat May 25, 2013 4:07 pm

Fetzie wrote:Can't really think of a class that fits with a goblin.


Rogue.

Or AH mule.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sat May 25, 2013 4:23 pm

there will be a couple extra races
only 11 classes, but 13 races
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Paxen » Sat May 25, 2013 4:56 pm

Human Paladin (even though Horde is my main faction)
Blood Elf Warlock
Undead Death Knight (kind of a cheat)
Orc Shaman
Dwarf Warrior
Goblin Rogue
Gnome Mage
Draenei Priest
Pandaren Monk (duh)
Night Elf Druid
Of the rest, they all have better fits than hunter (troll shaman/druid, tauren shaman (druid?), worgen (fury) warrior). But I'll go with
Troll Hunter

If it had been high elves instead of blood elves, they could be the hunter. But I think warlock fits the Blood Elf ethos so well. I wouldn't mind switching around tauren, orcs and dwarfs (tauren shaman, orc warrior, dwarf out) either, but to me Thrall has always been the iconic shaman.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby benebarba » Sat May 25, 2013 5:07 pm

Thanks to the cinematic sequences for vanilla and TBC:

Dwarf Hunter (with gun and bear)
Draenei Paladin/Vindicator (with tome on a chain and big honkin mace)... despite humans being so involved because of the paladin orders, that cinematic was awesome. Also, I don't care if it's a re-colored paladin... I want a class called 'Vindicator'. Or even a title. I don't care.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Paxen » Sat May 25, 2013 5:28 pm

benebarba wrote:Dwarf Hunter (with gun and bear)
Draenei Paladin/Vindicator


Dammit, you're right. Guess it's Dwarf Hunter, Tauren Shaman, Orc Warrior. But that leaves two problems...

1) Who's the Priest? (Idontknow is the tank, we're not talking about him.)
2) Now I need to send my baby dwarf hunter that boa archy gun, find a proper transmog for it and then go back to Dun Morog and get a bear...
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Shoju » Sat May 25, 2013 5:38 pm

Troll Death Knight.
There are no other race class combinations that I'm aware of.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sat May 25, 2013 5:45 pm

i have dat mace, with T2 recolor...on my dwarf
it isnt QUITE the same lol

i agree about the dwarves and hunters
trolls fit better lore wise, but dwarves are a close second

with draenei pally, human priests?

and touche Shoju :)
i was expecting you to say something like that (and if i was to remake my dk, i would make him a troll as well as most of my other toons)
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Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Ironshield » Sat May 25, 2013 11:56 pm

Undead DK - dispense with the whole died reinc, died DK convolutions
Dwarf Hunter - it's like in the opening credits laddie
Troll Shaman - I think trolls and shamanism just go together
Nelf Druid - they did invent it after all
Pandaren Monk - same again
Human Paladin - Uther, need I say more
Orc Warrior - I don't want my orcs all thinky... thrall was an anachronism
Gnome Mage - gnomes are just mages man.
Belf Mage - iconic magic users
Worgen Warlock - locks had me a bit stuck, it was worgen or orc (shadow council)
Tauren Druid - also iconic druids
Draenei Priest - the light is fundamental to their society so this or paladin.
Goblin Rogue - consummate thieves

I cheated and doubled up on 2 classes. If forced I would drop tauren druids and gnome mages.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sun May 26, 2013 12:26 am

its ok, you have to double up to cover all the classes
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Koatanga » Sun May 26, 2013 2:33 pm

Undead - DK
Troll - Shaman
Tauren - Druid
Orc - Warlock
Blood Elf - Mage
Pandaren - Monk
Human - Paladin
Gnome - Rogue
Dwarf - Warrior
Night Elf - Hunter (Cat pet required)
Draenei - Priest
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby halabar » Sun May 26, 2013 7:13 pm

It really doesn't make sense to do 1-to-1, fights against too much lore..

Human - paladin, priest
Nelf - Druid, priest, mage
Dwarf - warrior, hunter
Gnome - mage, engineer
Draenei - paladin, priest
Worgen - warrior, rogue
Tauren - shaman, druid, warrior
Belf - mage, warlock
Orc - warrior, warlock
Troll - shaman, druid, hunter
Goblin - rogue, AH mule
Panderan - monk
Undead - rogue, priest, warlock

DK... not iconic for any.. an aberration.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby PsiVen » Sun May 26, 2013 8:21 pm

Dwarf Warrior
Dwarf Paladin
Dwarf Death Knight
Dwarf Shaman
Dwarf Hunter
Dwarf Monk
Dwarf Druid
Dwarf Rogue
Dwarf Priest
Dwarf Mage
Dwarf Warlock
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Arnock » Sun May 26, 2013 8:42 pm

Death Knight: Undead, duh

Druid: Night Elf, duh

Hunter: Dwarf, opening cinematic

Mage: Blood Elf, because high elves were mages 'n' stuff

Monk: Pandaren, duh

Paladin: Human, founded the silver hand

Priest: Draenei, humans had pallies covered, and the draenei seem fairly in tune with the light

Rogue: Worgen, I figured that wolf-like critters would have the whole sneaking around thing pretty down pat

Shaman: Troll, Orcs were taken, and the trolls are very shamanistic

Warrior: Tauren, I'm sorry, something that's 8 feet tall and swinging an 8 foot, 300lb chunk of steel at your face is going to do some damage

Warlock: Orc, because they invented the whole warlock thing.




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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sun May 26, 2013 9:10 pm

halabar wrote:It really doesn't make sense to do 1-to-1, fights against too much lore..

well this wasnt a question about being completely true to lore

it was simply to be a question of what you think matches up with what race/class

that said, i do like the idea of your iconic CLASSES for each race

and DK would be all races as they were previously slain champions that fought the scourge (iirc the most powerful DKs are raised paladins, think blackguard in D&D, thus the only true DKs would be dwarves and humans...possibly belfs too. im not sure about the timeline of when the scourge attacked SMC and when the blood knights started)
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby halabar » Sun May 26, 2013 11:25 pm

bldavis wrote:
halabar wrote:It really doesn't make sense to do 1-to-1, fights against too much lore..

well this wasnt a question about being completely true to lore

it was simply to be a question of what you think matches up with what race/class

that said, i do like the idea of your iconic CLASSES for each race


But you really can't do one per.. too much lore.

Dks.. an aberration still. They may all turn on us one day.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sun May 26, 2013 11:29 pm

halabar wrote:Dks.. an aberration still. They may all turn on us one day.

nah, just the troll ones :twisted:
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Jezakael » Tue May 28, 2013 9:17 am

Forsaken (Shadow) Priest - For me the Cult of Forgotten Shadow is what being Forsaken is all about.
Blood Elf Mage - As High Elves they were certainly Mages. After all the fel-energy tapping should be Warlock maybe.
Troll Shaman - Witch Doctors could be Priests or Warlocks as well but totems seem the most iconic.
Orc Warrior - A small clique invented Warlocks but overall they are Warriors.
Tauren Hunter - Could be reversed with Night Elves but those were the first Druids and Tauren hunting the plains seems flavourful to me.
Goblin Rogue - Good fit. Greedy, nasty, backstabby.

Pandaren Monk

Human Paladin - They invented them by themselves without anyone teaching them. Draenei needed the Naaruu.
Night Elf Druid - Cenarius and so on.
Gnome Warlock - Mage seems too responsible.
Worgen DK - Someone had to be DK. Doesn't make too much sense for Gilneans being behind the wall and all. I kind of agree that they are more of an abomination instead of iconic for any race.
Draenei Mage - Due to their Eredar heritage. Paladin would have been fine as they were the first, I only know one notable Priest. Sure it's their leader but nobody mentioned Human Warrior either.
Dwarf Warrior - Some kind of Tolkien flashback I suppose.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Tue May 28, 2013 1:52 pm

worgen DKs were gilneans outside of the wall
the rest were infected in late wrath according to the timeline (a month or 2 before the cataclysm, you are infected, and cured and right after you are cured the cataclysm happens)
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Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPS
Amirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego.
Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Paxen » Tue May 28, 2013 2:15 pm

You might want to think about what question you want to answer - what's the iconic race for a given class, and what's the iconic class for a given race? Most orcs are warriors, and it represents much of what being an orc is all about. However, several other races are also warriors (dwarfs and worgen can both be argued to be warriors first), so it's arguable if "orc" is the answer to "what race is the archetypical warrior?" And if you want the archetypical warlock, he's an orc - they invented the class after all.

My list with class first:

Warlock: Orc
Mage: Gnome
Priest: Human
Rogue: Goblin
Druid: Night Elf
Monk: Pandaren
Hunter: Dwarf
Shaman: Orc (taken) or Tauren (draenor or azeroth)
Paladin: Draenei
Warrior: Orc (taken), Human (taken), so Worgen
Death Knight: Forsaken

Race first:

Orc: Warrior
Troll: Hunter
Tauren: Shaman
Forsaken: Umm. Could be lots, lets go with Shadow Priest
Blood Elf: Warlock
Goblin: Rogue

Human: Warrior (footman!)
Dwarf: Hunter
Gnome: Mage
Night Elf: Druid
Draenei: Paladin
Worgen: Umm again. Third warrior?

Pandaren: Monk

Death Knights aren't really "of" any race.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby benebarba » Tue May 28, 2013 2:33 pm

Paxen wrote:
Death Knights aren't really "of" any race.


I seem to remember a quest chain in shadowmoon valley that mentioned the first death knights created by Gul'dan being orcs... even though it seems like the connection to the paladin orders due to arthas becoming lich king makes more sense in my head.
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