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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby halabar » Sun May 26, 2013 7:13 pm

It really doesn't make sense to do 1-to-1, fights against too much lore..

Human - paladin, priest
Nelf - Druid, priest, mage
Dwarf - warrior, hunter
Gnome - mage, engineer
Draenei - paladin, priest
Worgen - warrior, rogue
Tauren - shaman, druid, warrior
Belf - mage, warlock
Orc - warrior, warlock
Troll - shaman, druid, hunter
Goblin - rogue, AH mule
Panderan - monk
Undead - rogue, priest, warlock

DK... not iconic for any.. an aberration.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby PsiVen » Sun May 26, 2013 8:21 pm

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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Arnock » Sun May 26, 2013 8:42 pm

Death Knight: Undead, duh

Druid: Night Elf, duh

Hunter: Dwarf, opening cinematic

Mage: Blood Elf, because high elves were mages 'n' stuff

Monk: Pandaren, duh

Paladin: Human, founded the silver hand

Priest: Draenei, humans had pallies covered, and the draenei seem fairly in tune with the light

Rogue: Worgen, I figured that wolf-like critters would have the whole sneaking around thing pretty down pat

Shaman: Troll, Orcs were taken, and the trolls are very shamanistic

Warrior: Tauren, I'm sorry, something that's 8 feet tall and swinging an 8 foot, 300lb chunk of steel at your face is going to do some damage

Warlock: Orc, because they invented the whole warlock thing.




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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sun May 26, 2013 9:10 pm

halabar wrote:It really doesn't make sense to do 1-to-1, fights against too much lore..

well this wasnt a question about being completely true to lore

it was simply to be a question of what you think matches up with what race/class

that said, i do like the idea of your iconic CLASSES for each race

and DK would be all races as they were previously slain champions that fought the scourge (iirc the most powerful DKs are raised paladins, think blackguard in D&D, thus the only true DKs would be dwarves and humans...possibly belfs too. im not sure about the timeline of when the scourge attacked SMC and when the blood knights started)
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby halabar » Sun May 26, 2013 11:25 pm

bldavis wrote:
halabar wrote:It really doesn't make sense to do 1-to-1, fights against too much lore..

well this wasnt a question about being completely true to lore

it was simply to be a question of what you think matches up with what race/class

that said, i do like the idea of your iconic CLASSES for each race


But you really can't do one per.. too much lore.

Dks.. an aberration still. They may all turn on us one day.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Sun May 26, 2013 11:29 pm

halabar wrote:Dks.. an aberration still. They may all turn on us one day.

nah, just the troll ones :twisted:
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Jezakael » Tue May 28, 2013 9:17 am

Forsaken (Shadow) Priest - For me the Cult of Forgotten Shadow is what being Forsaken is all about.
Blood Elf Mage - As High Elves they were certainly Mages. After all the fel-energy tapping should be Warlock maybe.
Troll Shaman - Witch Doctors could be Priests or Warlocks as well but totems seem the most iconic.
Orc Warrior - A small clique invented Warlocks but overall they are Warriors.
Tauren Hunter - Could be reversed with Night Elves but those were the first Druids and Tauren hunting the plains seems flavourful to me.
Goblin Rogue - Good fit. Greedy, nasty, backstabby.

Pandaren Monk

Human Paladin - They invented them by themselves without anyone teaching them. Draenei needed the Naaruu.
Night Elf Druid - Cenarius and so on.
Gnome Warlock - Mage seems too responsible.
Worgen DK - Someone had to be DK. Doesn't make too much sense for Gilneans being behind the wall and all. I kind of agree that they are more of an abomination instead of iconic for any race.
Draenei Mage - Due to their Eredar heritage. Paladin would have been fine as they were the first, I only know one notable Priest. Sure it's their leader but nobody mentioned Human Warrior either.
Dwarf Warrior - Some kind of Tolkien flashback I suppose.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Tue May 28, 2013 1:52 pm

worgen DKs were gilneans outside of the wall
the rest were infected in late wrath according to the timeline (a month or 2 before the cataclysm, you are infected, and cured and right after you are cured the cataclysm happens)
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Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Paxen » Tue May 28, 2013 2:15 pm

You might want to think about what question you want to answer - what's the iconic race for a given class, and what's the iconic class for a given race? Most orcs are warriors, and it represents much of what being an orc is all about. However, several other races are also warriors (dwarfs and worgen can both be argued to be warriors first), so it's arguable if "orc" is the answer to "what race is the archetypical warrior?" And if you want the archetypical warlock, he's an orc - they invented the class after all.

My list with class first:

Warlock: Orc
Mage: Gnome
Priest: Human
Rogue: Goblin
Druid: Night Elf
Monk: Pandaren
Hunter: Dwarf
Shaman: Orc (taken) or Tauren (draenor or azeroth)
Paladin: Draenei
Warrior: Orc (taken), Human (taken), so Worgen
Death Knight: Forsaken

Race first:

Orc: Warrior
Troll: Hunter
Tauren: Shaman
Forsaken: Umm. Could be lots, lets go with Shadow Priest
Blood Elf: Warlock
Goblin: Rogue

Human: Warrior (footman!)
Dwarf: Hunter
Gnome: Mage
Night Elf: Druid
Draenei: Paladin
Worgen: Umm again. Third warrior?

Pandaren: Monk

Death Knights aren't really "of" any race.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby benebarba » Tue May 28, 2013 2:33 pm

Paxen wrote:
Death Knights aren't really "of" any race.


I seem to remember a quest chain in shadowmoon valley that mentioned the first death knights created by Gul'dan being orcs... even though it seems like the connection to the paladin orders due to arthas becoming lich king makes more sense in my head.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Worldie » Tue May 28, 2013 3:14 pm

The Death Knights created by Guldan had nothing to do with the Scourge's Death Knights.

Guldan put orc souls in human bodies, while the scourge reanimated and enslaved their souls.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Paxen » Tue May 28, 2013 3:24 pm

Worldie wrote:Guldan put orc souls in human bodies, while the scourge reanimated and enslaved their souls.


Good old WCII death knights.

WTB that Death Knight ranged spell dps spec, built around Death Coil.
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby bldavis » Tue May 28, 2013 5:04 pm

Paxen wrote:
Worldie wrote:Guldan put orc souls in human bodies, while the scourge reanimated and enslaved their souls.


Good old WCII death knights.

WTB that Death Knight ranged spell dps spec, built around Death Coil.

ive been saying that for a while
plus it gives another use for spell plate
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Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.
Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!
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Re: Race/Class Iconic Matches?

Postby Arnock » Fri May 31, 2013 11:03 pm

Back when DK's were originally announced, I assumed that they would have a ranged DPS spec, sort of working in the WC3 necromancer feel, combination of diseases, death coil and a handful of ghouls running around at all times.
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