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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Epimer » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:55 pm

I'm logged out in the spec I cleared Inferno with, although I changed the spec for Diablo himself. I like the LoH of Rain of Toads spam more than the massive AoE from Firebomb, but I haven't varied things too much since finding a spec that worked well for me.

EDIT: I'm not suggesting gearing like me, though. I have way lower armor and resistances than I'm comfortable with.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:49 am

1.0.5 will see an across the board baseline 25% damage reduction in Inferno. It will also see a huge reduction in defensive cooldowns to be less powerful, War Cry+Impunity dropping to 20% resistance increase as an example, but offer the same relative benefit as in 1.0.4. Wizards and Demon Hunters will have defensive benefits added to existing skills as well.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:30 pm

Well I don't use any defensive cooldown anyway, I prefer to rely on a high armor/resist set to just keep stable low damage.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:32 pm

Worldie wrote:Well I don't use any defensive cooldown anyway, I prefer to rely on a high armor/resist set to just keep stable low damage.


Those are things that'll change. War Cry+Impunity is currently 20% armor and 50% Resistances. In 1.0.5 it'll be 20% armor and resistances. Other changes are going through as well, like Jungle Fortitude being reduced to 15% damage.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Levantine » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:47 pm

So I was thinking about reinstalling and giving 1.0.4 a go and I was going to try a melee wizard build. I was playing around with the build and I came up with this from my sketchy memory and what seemed like the logical course of action. http://d3db.com/calculator/i/wizard/36240

The last slot I have absolutely no idea on and I figured if cannoneer can proc critical mass it might be a decent use of the slot. Am I doing it right? I assume I'll be going for crit chance wherever I can get it and armour/resist is helpful as always in melee.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:03 am

How does the melee wizard work? I was interested in trying it, but everytime i dare to get in melee range of a mob i pretty much get 3shotted even with 1k resist and 9k armor.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Forgrim » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:25 am

you have to run in with diamond skin active (usually) then start pounding away with cyclones and cold nova repeatedly over and over (also refreshing diamond skin).

I don't suggest it however, since its getting hit with a giant nerf bat next patch.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Mukat » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:54 pm

Pardon the necro, but with the recent changes to the game, and my wow sub expired, im finding it to be way more fun than it was before. I can play my barb how i want to, and effectively at that. I just started back about a week ago and after quickly buying some starting gear to boost him up (had mostly lvl 60 gear, got some 61 and 62) i found myself able to easily turn on monster power 2. Already im at mp4 and im thinking about mp5 because only some elite packs give me problems.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:00 am

Same boat, except WoW still subbed but I discovered I hate pretty much every other game after the 6 hour single player experience is done versus the 5 levels of Paragon I gained in D3 that gave me more fun than a host of other games I've played recently

The dive in the economy is amazing. Good gear is worthless, Better than Good is cheap and Great is all the gold ever. Add in the new Archon crafting patterns were you can pick the attribute you want and gearing up is pretty cheap, you can get 2 or 3 piece legendary set for 500K total it seems. Even if you are opposed to the AH you can use the various difficulty settings for Inferno and skip the AH and just farm your way to better gear.

On my Barb MP4 gives me some issues if it is a desecrate, molten, plagued pack but most others die in my endless Wrath of the Berserker Whirlwind of death.

If you haven't done it explicitly farm up Infernal Machines. Big primary stat ring with a bonus 35% XP. You want to do 3 Infernal Machines at once to go to each realm.

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Fri May 17, 2013 3:51 am

Anyone still playing? Picked up playing again. Been working my way through some MP levels, trying to gather keys for Infernal Machines. If I can handle MP5 solo, at what difficulty should I attempt soloing the Infernal bosses?

EDIT: Also, anyone know about a simple to use DPS comparison tool, that takes all your gear into account?
I'm pretty sure my next weapon upgrade will have to be to go from 2H to 1H+OH, but the game only compares either with the 1H or the OH, and I don't want to burn millions of gold on something without knowing for sure.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Fri May 17, 2013 11:50 am

You should be able to do MP5 if you switch in a defensive passive or two. On my barb I switch in Toughness for the cooldown reduction on Wrath of the Berserker and carry a shield for them. But I am usually in a group when I do them with a Demon Hunter that tanks everything.

http://d3up.com/ is probably the best character profiler out there.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Fri May 17, 2013 1:53 pm

Thanks. Farming as Archon wizard, but I suppose I should go in with some CM build, since Archon won't get much uptime without trash to kill.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Gab » Tue May 21, 2013 6:28 am

Just picked this back up, a couple of buddies started playing again.

The new version of this game deserves a big WTF!?! I spent the ~$3 I had left from the RMAH on some gear for my Barb and went on some Uber (the machine bosses?) boss kills with another Barb and a CM Wizard.

I'm sorry but to me... This game is utterly borken now... with $3 worth of shit I could stand on multiple stacked poison clouds getting pounded on by both Ghom and Rakanoth on MP7 while just spinning and spinning and... spinning. This was with 90 mil or so worth of gear and 15 minutes of knocking the rust off.

No need to do anything but spin and spam sprint so that Wrath doesn't fall off. I guess for mindless fun it was alright... I couldn't see me playing anything other than HC self found for more than a night or two though. With Path of Exile in my opinion being hands down better in every possible way (aside from graphics and syncing) I'm not seeing that happening either.

Is it just that Barbs are imba now or are all classes more or less indestructable?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Tue May 21, 2013 8:45 am

I guess one could argue that most games become boring if you just buy your way to the gear you need. :P

Depends a bit on what kind of player you are, I suppose. I actually enjoy doing farming runs with my friends, and yeah, while I also then spend the money I earned to buy gear, I've gotten plenty of hours worth of fun between every +1MP I can handle. If I jumped straight into MP7, I would've missed out quite a few hours of gameplay. Considering that they've upped the monster density and equalized drops, there's quite a range of worthwhile farming routes out there, so it's not so grindy.

If you find MP7 boring, why don't you try MP10? And if you can't handle MP10, then hey, you have a challenge for yourself!
If you're being indestructible, then maybe you're just in the wrong difficulty. I'd be pretty damn omnipotent if I took down the difficulty 3-4 notches too. :P

There's also things you can do to create fun for yourself, instead of just hopping into the best gear and the best builds straight away. Try different builds, classes, playstyles. That is, if you're really willing to give the game a shot and do what you can to get your money's worth. :wink:

I've briefly tried Path of Exile as well, and it seems pretty great. I'd agree that it's more "Diably-ish" than Diablo 3 is. As far as I'm concerned, if you look at D3 as a sequel to D2, it doesn't do too good. But if you look at it as "Action RPG X", it's actually pretty good. The mechanics are solid, there's a decent amount of content, and while the itemization could be better, at least it has a team who's aware and are churning out patches at some pace. So there's hope!
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Tue May 21, 2013 10:32 am

The Ghom/Rakanoth combo is easily the best for WW/Sprint (worst build ever as it is the opposite of fun) Barb since the clouds feed your Fury so you'll never run dry and any LoH will keep you alive.

The way the economy is: Good enough gear (which is all anyone really needs) is cheap, the best gear is unaffordable.

I tried playing PoE but the fact that I can't zoom out to a comfortable distance was a deal breaker resulting in its uninstall after 30 minutes of playing.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Tue May 21, 2013 11:31 am

Flex wrote:I tried playing PoE but the fact that I can't zoom out to a comfortable distance was a deal breaker resulting in its uninstall after 30 minutes of playing.


I'm a tall guy irl, and when that happens in games, I feel like I'm in a room where the ceiling is too low. I almost always ran WoW with the max view distance on.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Gab » Tue May 21, 2013 2:44 pm

Flex wrote: WW/Sprint (worst build ever as it is the opposite of fun)


I guess maybe that's my problem. Should spec out of it and try before passing judgment.

That money that I spent might as well have been old gold, I earned it playing when it first launched. It's such a drastic change from launch where I switched toons from Barb to Wizard because Melee, especially Barbs, got mutilated without, at the time, insane gear. Now I come back and a moron build with a tiny bit of effort's worth of gear (however you want to quantify it) lets you steam roll pretty close to the highest possible content. I guess it's just a bit of a shock going from launch to now without having been involved in the incremental changes.

I was surprised when one of the people I was playing with said it wasn't really worth picking up anything other than legendaries. That's just crazy to me.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Tue May 21, 2013 3:40 pm

Yeah. Legendaries or ilvl 63 rares. Personlly I tend to pick up all yellows, but I'm starting to wonder why I bother. 99% of them go straight to the woodchipper.
Itemization is a big big problem at the moment, and as you both say, getting good-to-great gear is cheaper than it maybe should be.

I get most of my D3 fun through farming runs with friends, changing up the routes and acts every once in a while, as well as the builds we use.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Tue May 21, 2013 4:35 pm

I use a hybrid WW and Hammer of the Ancients build. I find WW stupid for elites/champions and HotA is awesome for those.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Sun May 26, 2013 12:16 pm

Gets me every time. Been farming for 30 minutes straight without dying, find a Fortune Shrine, activate it... Die right after.

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Snake-Aes » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:40 pm

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:55 pm

Shrine of Unspecified Fortune.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:00 pm

Trying to farm in Act 4. Brb, grating my face.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Era » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:49 am

So, Crusader, eh?

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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:24 am

I hope not all of the environments are dark to appease the "Diablo 3 is too colorful" people. I really dug the color and art style used for the environments.

Strength wielding holy warrior for great justice is just what I need.
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