LGBT rights discussion

[Klaudandus]

Welp. More of the same.

[Klaudandus]

http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/ar ... t_this.php

This made me lol

[Fridmarr]

Welp. More of the same.

Maybe his position will evolve.

[Snake-Aes]

Fun fact: Here the committee that legislates in favor of minorities (particularly homosexuals and cripples, but things like female rights also brush their jurisdiction) elected a new president. A priest from the universal church that openly states things like "aids is a gay disease".

[Koatanga]

http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/03/sodomy_no_one_told_us_about_this.php

This made me lol

On the one hand it's amusing, but on the other hand, it's representative of how actual people think, which is more than a little frightening.

[Aubade]

Yeah that video angered me. Such idiocy.

[Klaudandus]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/politics/ ... ?hpt=hp_c1

On one hand I think it is cool he changed his mind, on the other hand, it pisses me off he was ok with denying other people's rights until it hit close to home.

[Skye1013]

Sadly, that's about the only way some people are ever going to change their mind. Just glad to have another politician on this side of the fence.

[Klaudandus]

A follow-up
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/2 ... ref=topbar

[Snake-Aes]

http://moglobo.globo.com/integra.asp?tx ... ia-7889259
It's...getting worse. This guy is the president for Brazil's committee of minorities and human rights. Famous quotes of his after he ascended to that role include:
1) "AIDS is a gay disease."
2) "STDs shouldn't be treated by the government, they're punishments for the wicked."
3) "Africa is a cursed land."
4) "Women Rights and Gay Rights destroy the families."

[Aubade]

http://moglobo.globo.com/integra.asp?txtUrl=%2Fpais%2Fmarco-feliciano-diz-que-direitos-das-mulheres-atingem-familia-7889259
It's...getting worse. This guy is the president for Brazil's committee of minorities and human rights. Famous quotes of his after he ascended to that role include:
1) "AIDS is a gay disease."
2) "STDs shouldn't be treated by the government, they're punishments for the wicked."
3) "Africa is a cursed land."
4) "Women Rights and Gay Rights destroy the families."

He's a pastor =[ How do these things happen?!

[Klaudandus]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/2 ... rry-a-man/

*facedesk*

[Shoju]

I deabted on where to post this, but this seems more apt than the Sports thread.

Mr. Kluwe has filed a brief with SCOTUS, and has the support of a growing list of Athletes.

http://athletesbrief.com/

The brief is located on there, and I'm working my way through it. It's interesting stuff.

[Skye1013]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/21/1754161/republican-lawmaker-opposes-marriage-equality-because-he-doesnt-want-to-marry-a-man/

*facedesk*

What ever happened to the idea that congressman/governors/etc are supposed to vote according to their constituents needs/desires and not based on their own personal preferences?

[Klaudandus]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/21/1754161/republican-lawmaker-opposes-marriage-equality-because-he-doesnt-want-to-marry-a-man/

*facedesk*

What ever happened to the idea that congressman/governors/etc are supposed to vote according to their constituents needs/desires and not based on their own personal preferences?

For republicans in power, its all about "Fuck you, I got mine"

[KysenMurrin]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/21/1754161/republican-lawmaker-opposes-marriage-equality-because-he-doesnt-want-to-marry-a-man/

*facedesk*

What ever happened to the idea that congressman/governors/etc are supposed to vote according to their constituents needs/desires and not based on their own personal preferences?

As far as they're concerned, they assume that most people are exactly like themselves, and are generally blind to minorities and women. Ask them to imagine an ordinary American, and they think middle-class conservative white guy.

[Klaudandus]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/2 ... ?mobile=wp

*facedesk*

[Klaudandus]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... lity-court

[Koatanga]

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/22/1759651/gop-chairman-tries-to-appeal-to-gay-voters-by-bragging-about-his-great-marriage/?mobile=wp

*facedesk*

I think this one is fair enough. He thinks gay people should support the Republican party because they only have "one or two issues", one of which happens to be that gay people shouldn't have the same rights as straight people. Well, the GoP doesn't believe women should have any rights, either. That's probably one if the "one or two" issues he has with his wife, and they have a great marriage, so why can't gay people ignore those "one or two issues" like his wife does so they can have a great relationship?

[Klaudandus]

More Scalia retardness
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013 ... ildren.php

[Klaudandus]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gay- ... ction.html

So... sterile heterosexual couples shouldn't seek to get married? how bout those couples that are fertile but want no kids? (several of my friends, and myself included, really dont feel like bringing a kid into this messed world)

[Amirya]

I saw that yesterday, it made me laugh.

I guess it's a good thing I'm not interested in remarriage, since I can no longer naturally procreate.

(Minor nitpick, but I'm pretty sure most homosexual people are still capable of "natural procreation" - just not with each other, which wasn't the argument.)

[Skye1013]

I read the transcript for the Prop 8 case yesterday, getting ready to read the one for DOMA today. So far, Scalia has been the biggest dissentor (big surprise there.)

[Klaudandus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22102740

[Koatanga]

New Zealand's parliament will have the final reading of the gay marriage bill tonight, which is expected to pass by a 2/3 margin. If things go as predicted, gay marriage will be legal, and legally recognised, in New Zealand as of August 2013.