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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:47 am

Nooska wrote:They did say in the patchnotes that they buffed farm special crops to make them more able to compete with world farming.


If they buffed it THAT well, then there's no point in being a gatherer at all, and I might as well drop mining for BS on my hunter. Also concerned about the ore prices.

Wish they would have fixed LW, I would drop mining for LW instead then.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby djlar » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:07 pm

They "buffed" potions of luck, the CD to use matches the duration, great for farming extra mats while doing dailies or raids with lots of trash, and now the chests can't be ninjaed by another potion user, and they removed the annoying "binds to you" message like a regular "white" item.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:10 pm

djlar wrote:They "buffed" potions of luck, the CD to use matches the duration, great for farming extra mats while doing dailies or raids with lots of trash, and now the chests can't be ninjaed by another potion user, and they removed the annoying "binds to you" message like a regular "white" item.


So you aren't rolling against other potion users anymore? And the cooldown makes sense? cool!
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Nooska » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:57 am

Well you may have a hard time coming across Ghost Iron on the farm from my experience.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:08 pm

djlar wrote:They "buffed" potions of luck, the CD to use matches the duration, great for farming extra mats while doing dailies or raids with lots of trash, and now the chests can't be ninjaed by another potion user, and they removed the annoying "binds to you" message like a regular "white" item.


Not so fast....

Yeah, they did make those changes, but... it appears the drop rate was also reduced, at least from my experience today. Did the first wing of HoF LFR, used 2 potions, got a total of 4 treasures. Got a bit of gold, 8 trillium, some cloth, so it still might be worth it, but barely. Not a big money maker.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jabari » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:08 am

halabar wrote:Not so fast....

Yeah, they did make those changes, but... it appears the drop rate was also reduced, at least from my experience today. Did the first wing of HoF LFR, used 2 potions, got a total of 4 treasures. Got a bit of gold, 8 trillium, some cloth, so it still might be worth it, but barely. Not a big money maker.


It looks to me that they implemented the mechanics used for the "bonus" Tailoring cloth on these. You won't see the Plundered until the person whose loot it is actually goes and picks thiers up, and only after that will any Plundered show up for you.

So you'll have to lag a bit behind the group to clean these up, and if lazy people are lazy and don't loot their mobs, you're SOL on those. (Unless they die, I believe).

(Cue raid leaders yelling "LOOT THE DOGS!!")

I used one in the first part of HoF LFR (covered the trash before the first 2 bosses), got my near-usual 14 boxes or so.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:35 am

Jabari wrote:
halabar wrote:Not so fast....

Yeah, they did make those changes, but... it appears the drop rate was also reduced, at least from my experience today. Did the first wing of HoF LFR, used 2 potions, got a total of 4 treasures. Got a bit of gold, 8 trillium, some cloth, so it still might be worth it, but barely. Not a big money maker.


It looks to me that they implemented the mechanics used for the "bonus" Tailoring cloth on these. You won't see the Plundered until the person whose loot it is actually goes and picks thiers up, and only after that will any Plundered show up for you.

So you'll have to lag a bit behind the group to clean these up, and if lazy people are lazy and don't loot their mobs, you're SOL on those. (Unless they die, I believe).

(Cue raid leaders yelling "LOOT THE DOGS!!")

I used one in the first part of HoF LFR (covered the trash before the first 2 bosses), got my near-usual 14 boxes or so.


Hmm... I was keeping an eye out behind me. I wonder if you get screwed by the people that don't auto-loot and only cherry pick because they are too lazy to sell greys or clean out their bags?

If so, the potions are still barely worth it unless GL craters.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jabari » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:42 pm

Don't think the "auto-loot" matters at all, just whether they go "touch" the corpse or not. It's different than skinning corpses, where everything has to be taken.

For my tailor, I get "bonus cloth" immediately on my corpses, and then other people's corpses will go sparkly (when the cloth procs) when that person touches it, whether they pick up anything or not. I've gotten grays along with my bonus cloth that way.

For a non-tailor (and non-Potion-of-Luck-user), they won't even see the cloth/plundered on the body. Unlike before - the non-eligible people COULD see the Plundered when they looted theirs, it was just in red.

It's hardly uncommon to have people just rush through and not loot their bodies at all. Had a Kun-Lai Kicker Scenario the other day where both other people never looted their stuff - that's one of my best places for the Luck Potion (and my tailor, too). That sucked. :(
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:25 pm

Nooska wrote:Farms, I had a mineral farm because of the need for trillium - I had almost pure trillium re yesterday after the patch hit form a full farm.


Well... did my first mineral patch yesterday, got a total of 17 trillium, and about 10 ghost iron. Not entirely impressed. Need to try the seeds that do MoH and see if those converted to GL would be more profitable, or just the herb ones for GL. If the farm is still giving 6+ GL per day, then that would be better than the minerals.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jabari » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:40 pm

I'm getting around 4 to 5 GL average a day from a full farm. Better to just plant Enigma instead of Songbells if you're just after profit probably. It's certainly better than converting SoH.

(Plus, the other herbs are at least somewhat useful - can mill them or turn them into potions)

They've definitely upped the others - was getting about 6 stacks of windwool from 16 plots (counting the Bolts as 5 cloth each), and the ore was ok too. Magebulbs I don't have a good count of (my enchanter planted them so it was all stacked with the stuff he carries), but they were giving more Essences (as well as plants with both Essences and Dust, which didn't happen before IIRC). Haven't tried the Leather ones since 5.2.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Flex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:42 pm

Nooska wrote:Well you may have a hard time coming across Ghost Iron on the farm from my experience.


Tailoring has a chance to get bolts from the crop in addition to the cloth. It is always Bolts+Cloth too. I can use 8 plots for cloth and come out ahead of pre-5.2 using 16 plots for cloth.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jabari » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:26 pm

Not just for Tailors - my Miner/Smith got Bolts from cactus seeds just fine. :)
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Chunes » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:50 pm

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in all seriousness, are there better yields in the farms than actually just going out and, you know, mining/herbing/killing?
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:58 pm

Chunes wrote:Image

in all seriousness, are there better yields in the farms than actually just going out and, you know, mining/herbing/killing?



I am with you there CHunes!

I ONLY get MoH off all my farms. I can buy/gather faster and more on my own. My alts dotn do much in the world to get the MoH howerver.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:11 pm

Chunes wrote:in all seriousness, are there better yields in the farms than actually just going out and, you know, mining/herbing/killing?


That's what I'm wondering. The farm is likely better, but then it's limited too. Going to get a better sample size, but I'm not overwhelmed by the supposed increases.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Flex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:18 pm

Unless you're lucky the farm is a better place for trillium. Haven't leveled my tailor yet so it is my best source of cloth and it is more than enough to keep us in Flasks. Us in this case is the guild. I deposit weeds, guild elixir master makes flasks.

For getting a lot of stuff quickly of course it isn't as good but for keeping yourself supplied over the course of a week it is ideal.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Chunes » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:56 pm

Ah that makes sense.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Jabari » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:20 pm

Flex wrote:Unless you're lucky the farm is a better place for trillium. Haven't leveled my tailor yet so it is my best source of cloth and it is more than enough to keep us in Flasks. Us in this case is the guild. I deposit weeds, guild elixir master makes flasks.

For getting a lot of stuff quickly of course it isn't as good but for keeping yourself supplied over the course of a week it is ideal.


Also, Golden Lotus. There's a reason that those were 300 a pop when MoP hit.

The rest of this is spot on. Enigmas are also powering my (seemingly returned *cheer*) potion market - the farm gives me quite a bit of random weeds for potions, and I just fly my druid up to Skyrange and back each day for a quick Green Tea Leaf pass when he does his farm. 5 minutes at most each day, plenty of GTL for pots.

Side note: Tested the Leather seeds yesterday. Full 16-plot farm gave around 70 Exotic Leather. No scales though, you'll have to get those manually it seems. (I try to hang around the daily sets for the crocs at Whitepetal Lake or the Turtles in Dread Waste when I'm low on those - any other good spots?)

Edit: Anyone selling the new 458 PvP crafted pieces? Trying to figure out where to price mine - the 450s go for 500 (cloth is lower though) - what should I price the 458s at?
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:10 pm

Hi Jab,

I sell all my PvP crafted gears for 1230g for all slot items. I some times have to repost 2-4x, but that is a CRAZY stupid margin and so worth that effort.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby oldboyz » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:39 am

940k omw to the million!!!

i was 700k in january

JC is very very competetive on my serveur, but i post gemms twice/day when 130po+ (thanks mobile armury!)--> steady 1-3k margin by day (i did somme large ironghost buy 2po/unit before 5.2, and recently bought 70lotus 40po/unit for transmut), starting selling meta too at 700po/unit with the new recipe
some sha enchant too from time to time (1,7k/bracer, 6k/weapon)
and then for 5.2, i sold several trinket 15k+ (and some card for 3k+)

tadam 900k cap done!
and still with some stock to convert (100+lotus, 200cut gemm, 50uncut, 70sha cristal)

million should be reach by the end of april :mrgreen:
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:53 am

Not big money, but the danio was the fish of the day, and hardly anyone was fishing. Fished up 10 stacks in under and hour, and none was listed on the AH, so it all went up for 11G50s each. Probably should have posted higher. But the fish and the misc ore from the crates should yield 3k for less than an hour's work while BSing in Mumble.
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:46 am

BAM! That is great news! 1,000,000.00! haha GO GO

Sold fish?!?! Say what now Hala?
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby halabar » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:33 am

Holyblaze wrote:BAM! That is great news! 1,000,000.00! haha GO GO

Sold fish?!?! Say what now Hala?


Danio.. component for the 25-man raid feast.. sells for 9-11G each. :wink:
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:47 pm

DANG! That is the CRAZY! Ore is still sellign fine for me, but I have to admit I am hording all my ore/bars for when the Thunderforge is open!
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Re: Making Gold on the AH

Postby Holyblaze » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:48 pm

Well...as soon as I said that I realized that EVERYONE will be crafting and selling! pfft! I should just dump it now for all the lvlers of BS huh?
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