[10H] Lei Shi

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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Schroom » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:43 am

how many DPS collect stacks in your raids? how many stacks do they take. what classes do you use.

how do you handle the adds. One hitting our healers ^^
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby timoseewho » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:47 am

Anyone with success 3-healing this, what kind of rotation do you use for the debuff (ie. how many people doing it, to how many stacks)?
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Galiks » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:31 pm

Stack Control: We have two warlocks handling the debuff that go up to ~15 stacks sometimes. Critical part is to not let stacks fall during a Protect by tanking the add on the side of the fog, or just staying out and not giving the add the debuff. Also make sure your debuff handlers are 30 yards away when a Hide ends so the stacks are immediately refreshed. Stack handling is made easy with one warlock due to Demonic Gateway, and any ranged class that doesnt lose DPS from moving (warlock/hunter ideal) should handle the debuff.

Add Control: Designate a priority location away from all DPS to choose the add so they can freely CC near them more easily. I choose the add closest to Sha of Fear's stairs and drag it away from everything so there is no confusion/hesitation with CC. We have two warlocks, hunter, resto shaman, druid, rogue so we literally just CC relative regions previously assigned and go from there. Banish OP

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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Chronos » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:49 am

Can anyone confirm the mechanics of how Hide ends? Damage done or number of AOE attacks? My comp has fewer AOE hits than usual. (yay ret pallies)
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby timoseewho » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:41 pm

Chronos wrote:Can anyone confirm the mechanics of how Hide ends? Damage done or number of AOE attacks? My comp has fewer AOE hits than usual. (yay ret pallies)

I have been told more times that it's number of attacks than damage done.
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Darielle » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:52 pm

Inconclusive afaik. Actually testing it would require having a raid that literally has only one person doing it (and since I believe she also eventually comes out, that may not work).

The problem with testing with multiple people is that you'll have multiple hits happening at different times and different damages, so one attempt there'll be 38 hits and X damage, and another attempt there's 25 hits and X+20 damage, and another attempt with 55 hits and X-30 damage (I've seen these three patterns on the same pull) and you go "WTF". It could even be something odd like a threshold that automatically lowers over time for all I know (e.g., every 5 seconds, needs 10k less damage or 2 fewer hits to break). It could be a combination as well.

Ultimately, unless you think your raid DPS is low enough that you may have Berserk issues, it won't matter. Have the people who are able to use their things and you're fine if it takes 5 or so seconds longer.
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Chronos » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:17 pm

So we ran into the difficulty tonight of only having three CC's - banish, bind, trap available when the four protectors spawn at 80% - little room for error. Next week we replace the PUG rsham we had tonight with our core MW monk - we may only have two CCs with our composition (guardian druid, blood dk, shadow/disc priest, hunter, ret pali, frost dk, mage, lock, holy pali, mistweaver monk).
Technically 1-2 more if you count druid roots or wyvern sting I guess. Yea we have spriest/lock fears (duration?) and shit but... wtb three banishes.

Question 1: am I correct in it being 4/4/5/5 protectors for 80/60/40/20%?
Question 2: anyone have footage of a 3 tank kill? I heard of a blood dk building to 20 stacks - this might help our awful comp deal with the fact that we don't have good (or enough) cc coverage. Two protector tanks. Thoughts? Between blood dk, prot pali, and bear druid, who should take 20?
Q3: Protectors Ring of Frost immune?

Edit: Found a video of 3T 3H: http://recursionbh.enjin.com/forum/post ... i-shi#last
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Rhiannon » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:33 am

What's wrong with paralysis?

You have scatter shot into trap, wyvern sting, banish, single target fear, paralysis for single target CCs as well as aoe fears/remorseless winters for aoe CC if something goes wrong, in addition to several stuns.

Ring of frost also works as a temporary CC yes.
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Chronos » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:42 pm

Ah thank you, forgot that as we havent had a monk in there yet. I dont think remorseless is fast enough and though we have some stuns the protector takes longer than stun duration to die. With ROF thats a decent back up. Can anyone confirm the protector count increasing in heroic like it does in normal? 4/4/5/5?
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Rhiannon » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:44 pm

It does yes.
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Kai » Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:32 am

stuns are definitely not enough. however if you have any druid, roots work just fine. use aoe fears/random stuns when they spawn and then druid roots one and everyone just makes sure to not stand inside melee range. plus your warlock can fear as well. if you have a hunter (trap, wyvern) and a warlock (banish, fear), you only need one more CC. can hardly imagine a setup where that's not available.
just need to make sure people don't break stuff with random aoe splash dmg (exploding living bombs, nether tempest, howlling blast were our crowd favorites).
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Galiks » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:39 am

Chronos wrote:So we ran into the difficulty tonight of only having three CC's - banish, bind, trap available when the four protectors spawn at 80% - little room for error. Next week we replace the PUG rsham we had tonight with our core MW monk - we may only have two CCs with our composition (guardian druid, blood dk, shadow/disc priest, hunter, ret pali, frost dk, mage, lock, holy pali, mistweaver monk).
Technically 1-2 more if you count druid roots or wyvern sting I guess. Yea we have spriest/lock fears (duration?) and shit but... wtb three banishes.

Question 1: am I correct in it being 4/4/5/5 protectors for 80/60/40/20%?
Question 2: anyone have footage of a 3 tank kill? I heard of a blood dk building to 20 stacks - this might help our awful comp deal with the fact that we don't have good (or enough) cc coverage. Two protector tanks. Thoughts? Between blood dk, prot pali, and bear druid, who should take 20?
Q3: Protectors Ring of Frost immune?

Edit: Found a video of 3T 3H: http://recursionbh.enjin.com/forum/post ... i-shi#last


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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Donatist » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:42 am

I can easily tank 2 protectors just make sure to keep tank swapping on Lei Shi during protect. And you can have the OT taunt the protector as well.
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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby mazater » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:42 pm

This won't soon be relevant because new raid tier is coming up, but what the hell.

If you have a Ret in the raid, make sure he doesn't drop GOAK during adds or it'll AoE explode after the duration ends and break your CCs.

And in case you're curious about CC breakers (=You want to know which D-bag funked stuff up) after the raid, you can check them via World of Logs if you add "xe/?x=fulltype+in+%28SPELL_AURA_BROKEN%2C+SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_SPELL%29" after the appropriate raid's WoL URL.

Or you can manually navigate to the raid you want and add "fulltype in (SPELL_AURA_BROKEN, SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_SPELL)" to expression editor.

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Re: [10H] Lei Shi

Postby Chronos » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:32 pm

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in: we three tanked this fight for the kill with a prot pali and blood dk on boss, druid stacking to 20 stacks and maintaining for the rest of the fight. Ring of Frost does work and is super helpful.
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