patch 5.2 ?

[Klaudandus]

Don't care about the over/under -- I just wish we would get a response... any response at this point...

[Fetzie]

Don't care about the over/under -- I just wish we would get a response... any response at this point...

Yeah, at least bad news is some news :/

[Klaudandus]

Yeah, at least bad news is some news :/

Yep

[oldboyz]

quick question for those gonna try soon the PTR :
how many gems slot on new tier set, pvp and pve

[Fetzie]

I think we'll know about that long before the items land on the PTR

[Newsom]

What are you guys complaining about? Paladins have probably the best cooldowns around and we're getting an extra 10% every 30 secs in the patch. Our DPS is totally fine, especially with how we scale with haste compared to other tank classes. I'm more worried they'll notice we're a bit overpowered soon and nerf us.

[Fetzie]

What are you guys complaining about? Paladins have probably the best cooldowns around and we're getting an extra 10% every 30 secs in the patch. Our DPS is totally fine. I'm more worried they'll notice we're a bit overpowered soon and nerf us.

Grabbing the threat of lots of mobs at once is rather gimped compared to the other tanks. Consecrate takes 2 seconds to do anything, Hammer of the Righteous only does damage when you have some vengeance and Holy Wrath does fuck all when split among 4+ mobs.

[Newsom]

It's kind of the same for the other tanks too, though. Thunderclap does fuck all without vengeance and the dot it applies can be compared to consecration. I usually find it's whoever goes and hits the mobs first that gets to keep threat on all the trash mobs in a raid, regardless of class. It's more of a vengeance problem to be honest.

That said it would be nice if they removed the meteor effect on HW.

[bldavis]

i dont raid with or as a monk currently, but i believe that is where most of the snap aggro issues are coming from
i know as a raiding DK tank with a pally co tank D&D and BB dont rip threat off my co tank

[Nooska]

Well Deathknighst can aoe grab quite effectively with bloodboil (and roiling blood or pestilence), monks have Keg smash.

[Klaudandus]

Buff pallies, warriors and bears then \o/

[Nikachelle]

i know as a raiding DK tank with a pally co tank D&D and BB dont rip threat off my co tank

I seriously question that.

[Amirya]

I kinda have to question that as well. When my DK was 85, running as Blood, in ~378 dps gear, I was yanking aggro off the 90 paladin tank with ease (and complaints from said paladin).

[Sagara]

i know as a raiding DK tank with a pally co tank D&D and BB dont rip threat off my co tank

CITATION NEEDED.

[Nooska]

ypur co-tank must be HoSing you