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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Fenris » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:45 pm

I hate the darkmoon daily battle

I really,really hate it...
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:08 pm

Fenris wrote:I hate the darkmoon daily battle

I really,really hate it...

Why? It's not particularly hard.

(Plus I can take whichever "alt of the day" there and pick up the WHEEEE bonus too *laugh*)

Now, I haven't gotten anything good from the rewards yet, true. Not a (good) reason to hate it though.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:27 pm

I finally levelled some of my pets to 20, and my Crawdad got "Wish" (50% heal on following turn, 5 round cooldown). Went into a PvP battle, then won without changing my pet at all. Crawdad just kept going, and going, and going...
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:32 pm

Decided to knock out some Pet Battle achievements this weekend.

* Finished up the Cataclysm and Pandaria tamers. Still have the spirit tamers to do.
* Caught a bunch of the new world rares.
* Power leveled a bunch of higher level rares to have more balance of level 25 pets (the fix to not split XP at max level pets is great). I still need to do an aquatic with actual aquatic attacks still, my turtle only has one and it is weaker than the other slot attack since it prevents swapping.
* Got 400 Pet Battle achievement points to get the tentacle. That pet looks very tanky. Shield, HoT and Thorns all usable at the same time.

I really dig the combo of Dark Whelpling and Panderan Monk. Call Darkness blinds everyone, swap in the monk with an attack that stuns blinded targets and then follow up with an attack that deals double damage to stunned targets.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Maat » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:45 pm

If you want a strong pet to, give the Anubisath Idol a spin. Reflect + Sandstorm + humanoid passive is like having a pocket protadin! Takes longer and can't really use it against beasts or other tank/heal pets, but it really softens the RNG. I use it to duo (solo sometimes) 75% of the Pandaria trainers for that sweet lowbie XP.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:11 am

Frickin finally got a Giraffe Calf. Left with the Minfernal and Qiraji Guardian as the only pets left to catch for Kalimdor Safari and the meta achievement.

The Infinite Whelpling looks to have a strong combo of attacks. A 100% damage increase if the user has lower health than the target, a tail sweep that deals extra damage if you go second and a slow enough speed to take advantage of those combos..
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Fenrìr » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:35 pm

Worldie wrote:So how do you solo Razorgore anyway. Clean up the shit after every mind control, or ignore adds completely and just focus on eggs?



It really depends on what you go in with. As a paladin, I spec into Eternal Flame and Light's Hammer and cancel the MC every 20-30 seconds. There's no rush to finish the fight really.

Personally, I start with the eggs on the MC side and work away from the platform. I pretty much MC Razor the entire first 90 seconds and then afterwords, break the MC every 20-30 seconds. Kill the adds immediately in my area and before Razor gets to me, cast a 3 holy power EF and really MC. The healing agro from EF is more than enough to get and keep adds on me.

You really have to keep the adds off of Razor cause eventually, they'll just overwhelm him. And the conflag he does is not something you cast on yourself cause it really negates the purpose of canceling the MC. So you have to be quick killing the adds around you on the platform...like less than 10 seconds.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:02 pm

Easiest way is to just hit him with a Lay on Hands if he gets low, in tank spec your health is almost as high as his, if not higher.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Jabari » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:58 am

Flex wrote:Frickin finally got a Giraffe Calf. Left with the Minfernal and Qiraji Guardian as the only pets left to catch for Kalimdor Safari and the meta achievement.


Wow nice! Can't get the Qiraji until summer, and I've given up on getting a Minfernal - there are always like 8 people camping that area (way more than for Onyxian or Scourged Whelplings).

Got [Raiding with Leashes] (Viscidius finally dropped its miniature), and now I'm close enough to Brood exalted I should probably just get it. (1 or 2 more weeks max) Still haven't beaten any of the Pandaria Spirit Tamers yet, need a little more variety in my 25s, particularly a good Aquatic. :(

On the bright side, I haven't seen any blatantly-bad bugs like before!
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Zobel » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:44 am

Jabari wrote:particularly a good Aquatic

Eternal striders are plentiful and have a good nuke (pump) and self healing.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Worldie » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:43 pm

Flex wrote:Easiest way is to just hit him with a Lay on Hands if he gets low, in tank spec your health is almost as high as his, if not higher.

I could solo it np on my pala by casting sacred shield and execution sentence on him every minute or so and aoeing all the shit around me before re-MCing.

Just wondering however how to solo it with a different class that doesnt have a HoT.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby fuzzygeek » Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:47 pm

I've got an Ooze at 21 with a 16 spectral cub and 11 celestial dragon. I've been grinding the ooze since he has a pair of dots and an absorb, so generally doesn't have too much trouble killing an entire team himself.

Is there some way of making the grind from 21-25 less awful? Am I better off leveling a full team at a time or working on a one-off? Is there some way other than flying around trying to find random critters to level?
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Zobel » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:21 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:I've got an Ooze at 21 with a 16 spectral cub and 11 celestial dragon. I've been grinding the ooze since he has a pair of dots and an absorb, so generally doesn't have too much trouble killing an entire team himself.

Is there some way of making the grind from 21-25 less awful? Am I better off leveling a full team at a time or working on a one-off? Is there some way other than flying around trying to find random critters to level?


Random battles and pet trainer battles. Some of the trainers (like Farmer Nishi) are easy to beat with nearly any group. Others can be soloed or duoed with particular level 25 pets (e.g. Grandmaster Aki can be soloed with an Anubisath Idol), freeing you to swap in lower level pets. Each trainer can be done once per day, and the easy ones you'll want to hit everyday. It's nice to get 5,000 xp in a couple minutes' effort.

There seems to be a certain amount of xp available each battle, split among your <25 participants. So you might as well pair one <25 pet with two 25 pets, to quicken the pace.

You can also pick your zones based on which pet type you're leveling -- that magic ooze would probably do well against all those flying bugs in the Jade Forest.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Finkum » Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:55 pm

Jabari wrote:Still haven't beaten any of the Pandaria Spirit Tamers yet, need a little more variety in my 25s, particularly a good Aquatic. :(


I find that Snails are the best counter to the Spirit Tamer elementals. They are critters, so take reduced elemental damage, have naturally large HP pools, and have Dive, which is strong against elementals, plus you can use it to avoid telegraphed attacks. The Thundering Spirit also has a stun and a second move with a 25% chance to stun, so the critter passive is invaluable there (Thundering is definitely the toughest of the 4 to beat).

fuzzygeek wrote:I've got an Ooze at 21 with a 16 spectral cub and 11 celestial dragon. I've been grinding the ooze since he has a pair of dots and an absorb, so generally doesn't have too much trouble killing an entire team himself.

Is there some way of making the grind from 21-25 less awful? Am I better off leveling a full team at a time or working on a one-off? Is there some way other than flying around trying to find random critters to level?


Until you have 3+ 25s, there isn't any easy way to speed up the grind. Once you do, as Zobel suggests, you can power-level a single lowbie pet by pairing it with 2 strong 25s and doing the Pandaria dailies. It's easy to get a level 1 all the way to level 25 in one set of dailies.

Typically I will do Grandmaster Aki first (swap the level 1 in when the cricket pet is healing, or when the otter is about to Dive, so it takes no damage), Farmer Nishi second (your pet will need to be at least level 2 to survive the sunflower's Sunlight attack), and then the Water Spirit third (two pets cast Tidal Wave frequently, so your pet needs to be level 12+ to survive). At this point your lowbie pet will be 17 or 18 and should be able to survive any of the other trainers with the possible exception of Thundering Spirit.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:18 pm

Finkum wrote:Until you have 3+ 25s, there isn't any easy way to speed up the grind. Once you do, as Zobel suggests, you can power-level a single lowbie pet by pairing it with 2 strong 25s and doing the Pandaria dailies. It's easy to get a level 1 all the way to level 25 in one set of dailies.


Thanks for the pointers; still working on the first 25 and will likely just buy a few 25s once I finish the ooze; on my realm a random sampling ranges from 7-15k for level 25 pets.

Or maybe not. I'm still not quite sure why I'm doing this at all, other than it's there.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:37 pm

That's the best reason to do anything.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Finkum » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:05 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:Or maybe not. I'm still not quite sure why I'm doing this at all, other than it's there.


I've found simply climbing the realm pet battle score ladder (as measured by wowprogress) oddly addictive. Apart from that, the Thundering Spirit Tamer fight is difficult enough that trying out new pet and ability combinations to see if I can find the perfect counter is fairly engaging too.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Newsom » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:55 pm

I found the most efficient way to level pets after 5.1 was to use two rare 25 DPS moths (high damage stats) to boost whatever I wanted to level up by just running around battling all the aquatics in Vale.

Since moths are flying they will be super effective against aquatic, and they also have an ability called Alpha Strike which deals extra damage if you go first, which you will 90% of the time thanks to the flying 50% speed bonus. One moth can usually 2-shot any of the aquatics there with Alpha Strike while taking minimal damage. Leveled probably 50+ of my pets to 1-25 this way.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Zobel » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:12 pm

When they hotfixed the trainers last month to prevent you from fighting them multiple times per day (by abandoning and re-accepting the quest), they forgot to hotfix the Darkmoon Faire pet trainer. They still have. As long as you don't turn in the quest, you can keep stuffing him full of tokens.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:31 am

Got 3 of the 4 Spirit Tamer pets over the weekend and got up to 469 total pets.
Used Pet Battle Teams to build up teams for my trainer route, EK and Kalimdor grandmaster trainers, all Outland trainers and the Cataclysm trainers. I can substitute whatever pet I'm leveling into the free slot and get from 10 to 25 doing the trainers.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Mannstein » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:58 am

Flex wrote: Used Pet Battle Teams to build up teams for my trainer route, EK and Kalimdor grandmaster trainers, all Outland trainers and the Cataclysm trainers. I can substitute whatever pet I'm leveling into the free slot and get from 10 to 25 doing the trainers.

I have a lvl21, a lvl20 and a lvl19. I a noob in what works here. I'l ask some questions.
A) So when i reach lvl25 in all, i should use two lvl25 and place "lvl 1 Pet to be boosted" and go do the dailies?
B) Does he have to fight or can he just never engage and get the xp?
C) If so isn't he proned to get killed in a single round?

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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Zobel » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:12 am

Mannstein wrote:
Flex wrote: Used Pet Battle Teams to build up teams for my trainer route, EK and Kalimdor grandmaster trainers, all Outland trainers and the Cataclysm trainers. I can substitute whatever pet I'm leveling into the free slot and get from 10 to 25 doing the trainers.

I have a lvl21, a lvl20 and a lvl19. I a noob in what works here. I'l ask some questions.
A) So when i reach lvl25 in all, i should use two lvl25 and place "lvl 1 Pet to be boosted" and go do the dailies?
B) Does he have to fight or can he just never engage and get the xp?
C) If so isn't he proned to get killed in a single round?

Cheers and thanks in advance

It has to survive one round as the active pet. If it's in slot #1, it has to perform one action. If it's in slots #2 or #3, it can be swapped in and then immediately out. (You can't start with it in slot #1 and have its first action be to switch to another pet.)

Level 1 pets are certainly prone to getting one-shotted. Certain boosting pets can make that less likely, as with the Anubisath Idol's sandstorm or Darkmoon Zep / Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling's decoy. If you're clever, you can figure out which rounds your opponents are likely to spend buffing themselves and swap it in during those rounds.

I'm not convinced that flying around to all the trainers is more efficient time-wise than just fighting random level 24-25s in Pandaria, but you'll want to fight them anyway if you're hoping for a porcupette.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:45 am

yea, once you get a full 25 team swap in pets to be leveled, easiest thing is to do a battle in MoP, a level 1 will get to level 5 from 1 fight and with facing lots of aquatics you tend to get a lot of buff rounds. Also you can go back and do a mid tier tamer fight with your 25s and you'll get decent XP for a quick boost.

I'm not convinced that flying around to all the trainers is more efficient time-wise than just fighting random level 24-25s in Pandaria, but you'll want to fight them anyway if you're hoping for a porcupette.


In my experience a level 25 tamer fight is worth about 3 to 5 regular Vale fights, I get anywhere from 440 to 700 XP for a vale fight (depending on quality of opponents and level range) with 10% from the Safari Hat, and once you get enough 25s to build strong groups they go pretty quickly. The Cataclysm trainers are quick travels due to the portals and are much easier than the Northrend ones.
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Finkum » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:40 pm

Zobel wrote:I'm not convinced that flying around to all the trainers is more efficient time-wise than just fighting random level 24-25s in Pandaria, but you'll want to fight them anyway if you're hoping for a porcupette.


A Pandaria daily will award anywhere from 3000 - 4500 XP (depending on pet level), whereas a random battle will typically award 400 - 700. Once you've figured out a good pair of pets for each tamer, it should be more time efficient to do the dailies I think. Additionally, anecdotally you have a much better chance at upgrade stones from the reward bags (so far I've had ~10 stones from bags and only 1 from a random battle).
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Re: Pet Battles

Postby Flex » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:45 am

Got the final spirit tamer pet today. Got a set up for the Darkmoon Tamer that wrecks his shit. My Mini Thor gets a work out, need to level another mechanical just to shake it up.
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