patch 5.2 ?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Well, before it was 81% of AP, now its 72% of AP...
The base damage went from 927 to 8226 tho...
So...using my 20416 AP unbuffed
before, [927 + (20416)(.81)] vs [8226 + (20416)(.72)]
That would be 17463 vs 22925
Over 9 secs, that is
157167 vs 206325
Of course, I could be completely wrong...
The base damage went from 927 to 8226 tho...
So...using my 20416 AP unbuffed
before, [927 + (20416)(.81)] vs [8226 + (20416)(.72)]
That would be 17463 vs 22925
Over 9 secs, that is
157167 vs 206325
Of course, I could be completely wrong...
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
That's still over 5k dps though (49158 damage every 9 seconds).
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Fetzie wrote:That's still over 5k dps though (49158 damage every 9 seconds).
But that's on base AP
If you factor in vengeance the difference will drop




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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Have I got this right? 927+(100000*0.81)=81927 vs 8226+(100000*0.72)=80226
I've got Cons doing less damage at 100000 AP after the change. Tell me I'm doing this wrong...please?
I've got Cons doing less damage at 100000 AP after the change. Tell me I'm doing this wrong...please?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Fetzie wrote:Have I got this right? 927+(100000*0.81)=81927 vs 8226+(100000*0.72)=80226
I've got Cons doing less damage at 100000 AP after the change. Tell me I'm doing this wrong...please?
That's what i fear




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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Maybe I'm smoking something, but I swear I read somewhere that they were adjusting it so that the melee haste would affect prot gcds.

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Re: patch 5.2 ?
The buff is to help us at low vengeance levels, which is when we get all our adds taken away from us with a single key smash...
Hahaha, NO
I tried to say that with a straight face and I couldn't , even if there is some truth to what I did say...
We'll see once this is on the ptr
Hahaha, NO
I tried to say that with a straight face and I couldn't , even if there is some truth to what I did say...
We'll see once this is on the ptr
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Klaudandus wrote:The buff is to help us at low vengeance levels, which is when we get all our adds taken away from us with a single key smash...
THIS was exactly my first thought after reading the patch notes. Well, at least we get some love, and it makes it much easier to stay ahead of the DPS for when we opt to cast salvation on the co-tank
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
KysenMurrin wrote:I'd hope the storyline leading us into a definitive "Garrosh must die" moment would not be entirely done through the mini-patches and quest content - that they'd have it tied to the raid storylines too.
I'd imagine the island hub explains a lot of the story. The basics will probably be Garrosh wanting to use the power of the Thunder King for his own purposes, with the Alliance trying to prevent that. If I had to guess the official winner of this tier will be the Horde (the Alliance was the official winner of who killed The Lich King) setting them up as a more powerful foe for the next tier.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
so they will finish invading dustwallow marsh and take back the barrens?

back to the tier sets for a min, the druid one looks more like a dk or lock set, and the rogue one is a decent looking assassins creed knockoff..but not too bad
the rest are eww - meh at best.
the season gear, i actually like the dk one. only 8 skulls!
time will tell if i grind out a bunch of honor on my dk for the pvp set, or stick with my current set of tmog - the green starting gear
oh and ty Halabar for this mental image..but look on the druid season set...
are those horns on your belt or are you just happy to see me?
back to the tier sets for a min, the druid one looks more like a dk or lock set, and the rogue one is a decent looking assassins creed knockoff..but not too bad
the rest are eww - meh at best.
the season gear, i actually like the dk one. only 8 skulls!
time will tell if i grind out a bunch of honor on my dk for the pvp set, or stick with my current set of tmog - the green starting gear
oh and ty Halabar for this mental image..but look on the druid season set...
are those horns on your belt or are you just happy to see me?

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Re: patch 5.2 ?
So T15 will be the tier of the codpiece?
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Klaudandus wrote:The buff is to help us at low vengeance levels, which is when we get all our adds taken away from us with a single key smash...
Hahaha, NO
I tried to say that with a straight face and I couldn't , even if there is some truth to what I did say...
Yeah,will be reaaaaaaaaally a great help there
Anyway,if they want to give us a decent aoe threat & snap aggro,they have to change holy wrath from the ground up,everything else will never work (unless they go the +1000000000000% damage way).
I dont get why it still has the meteor-like damage spread now that retri no longer has it...
(Yeah,because they have placed it into the single target rotation so they have to keep the damage relevant on single target while not OP on multitarget,i know...)




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Re: patch 5.2 ?
Regarding Consecration:
Current: 9*(102.7+0.18*SP) = 9*(102.7+0.09*AP)
5.2: 9*(810.3+ 0.08*AP)
Solve 102.+0.09*AP = 810.3+0.08*AP
AP = 70760
So it's a buff below about 70k AP, and a nerf above 70k AP. Thus, it's a nerf for anything over ~30k Vengeance AP.
Current: 9*(102.7+0.18*SP) = 9*(102.7+0.09*AP)
5.2: 9*(810.3+ 0.08*AP)
Solve 102.+0.09*AP = 810.3+0.08*AP
AP = 70760
So it's a buff below about 70k AP, and a nerf above 70k AP. Thus, it's a nerf for anything over ~30k Vengeance AP.
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
You should post that on the forums, or maybe PM Ghostcrawler, now that he's on twitter ^_~
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Re: patch 5.2 ?
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Wut?
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