patch 5.2 ?

[oldboyz]

@mannstein : Lead need objective arguments
-some will always find we are not fast enought - the more stress, the more fun
-other will always find there is no stress and all fine (and find LFR a good fun)

for the moment, my only comparaison point is wowprogress (but can't be use as a safe repository, it is relative)

during Cata, i was able to please everyone in my guild
MOP is more complicated

[Sagara]

yay \o/

[Nooska]

We better get a move on....
PTR early jan means expected launch late feb, early march.

[Passionario]

I keep expecting to see XT-002 marching through that courtyard. The resemblance is uncanny.

[Fenrìr]

Hm...so will the raid be situated in Townlong or Kun-Lai...HRM...

[KysenMurrin]

There's no huge structure like that on the known parts of Pandaria. I suspect they'll open up the island just off the map.

By the way, any idea how many tiers we'll get this expac? Cata felt kinda small with only 3.

[Fenrìr]

But that's not saying they won't 'construct' it for 5.2. However an island is a good thought.

[Newsom]

Hm...so will the raid be situated in Townlong or Kun-Lai...HRM...

It'll be on the Thunder Isle north of Townlong (you can see it if you zoom out to the overview Pandaria map).

It was called the "Zandalari Island" on alpha/blizzcon map scetches so I wouldn't be surprised if the Zandalari are involved heavily. Maybe an old god at the end?

[KysenMurrin]

Wonder how they're going to maintain the Alliance/Horde conflict during a "kill the Mogu/Trolls" tier. Hope they do something interesting with it - perhaps the Thunder King could have more Sha weapons that Garrosh wants, and the raid becomes a race to secure/destroy them.

[Nooska]

Well right now we have a "kill tha mogu/mantid and a troll" tier.

[KysenMurrin]

That takes place pre-patch 5.1. Canonically, we cleared all those before the armies arrived.

[Nooska]

So canonically, we are just at war with eachother currently (and arming ourselves for the future)?

[KysenMurrin]

The Horde/Alliance were at war between Cata and MoP, but the conflict only barely started to touch Pandaria after our arrival there. The Horde & Alliance had clear presence in Jade Forest, and smaller expeditionary presences in Krasarang Wilds, but beyond that we were just getting involved in local matters, including the raids.

Then, after we helped defeat the Sha of Fear, Garrosh & Varian arrived with the full fleets, and kicked off this current storyline of Garrosh's Horde seeking conquest & power and the Alliance seeking to block them. It would be odd to suddenly put all that on hold to go and deal with local stuff again (the Thunder King). There has to be a reason for Horde and Alliance leaders to let their heroes go off after these Mogu.

I'd hope the storyline leading us into a definitive "Garrosh must die" moment would not be entirely done through the mini-patches and quest content - that they'd have it tied to the raid storylines too.

[Klaudandus]

is it gonna be a single raid?

[Nooska]

From what I've read, yes, a single raid tier a la Ulduar.