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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Skye1013 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:36 pm

Klaudandus wrote:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/10/apple_applies_to_trademark_the_leaf/

And this is why I dislike Apple.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:55 pm

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Gotta disagree here... the problem is the number of rip-off artists and such that will abuse a company's logo.

You mean like this café in Germany that chose this as its logo and got sued by Apple?

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The problem is that it is too easy to get a patent for some product or process that you don't use, or should never be patented in the first place. In my opinion, if a patent is issued, the person or company registering the patent should have to show they have created something using it within a time period, let's say 3 years. If nothing is forthcoming when this deadline expires, the patent is revoked and cannot be re-registered for another ten years. The requirements for eligibility for a patent need to be brought out of the 19th century too.


What I dislike is that the patent office has pretty much allowed abstract concepts to be patented -- I believe apple recently got a patent for what they call 5D tv -- without a proof of concept.

It's like if they were to grant me a patent on a flying car without showing how its supposed to work, which is what really should be patented.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Passionario » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:26 am

Fetzie wrote:The problem is that it is too easy to get a patent for some product or process that you don't use, or should never be patented in the first place. In my opinion, if a patent is issued, the person or company registering the patent should have to show they have created something using it within a time period, let's say 3 years. If nothing is forthcoming when this deadline expires, the patent is revoked and cannot be re-registered for another ten years.


Many patent systems actually have measures to discourage patent holders from sitting on their IP. In Russia, if you don't use your patent for a given time period (4 years for inventions and industrial designs, 3 years for utility models), it becomes subject to mandatory licensing. From that point on, anyone can go to a court, demand to enter into a non-exclusive license agreement to use your technology (on terms and conditions set by the court), and you can't say 'no'.

Klaudandus wrote:What I dislike is that the patent office has pretty much allowed abstract concepts to be patented -- I believe apple recently got a patent for what they call 5D tv -- without a proof of concept.


The name as such is not really relevant - for all the Patent Office cares, Apple might as well name it "Time And Relative Dimension In Space Mark IV". The important parts are claims and description.

(In this particular case, they seem to be patenting some kind of a 3D-touchscreen - an improved version of Kinect, I suppose)

One thing to keep in mind is that software and business methods are one of the most controversial areas in IP law. Scholars, lawyers and legislators have been passionately debating for many years now whether they should be patentable, copyrightable or placed into a separate category of their own. Quite a few patent systems refuse to recognize them at all. If there is a right answer to this issue, we haven't found it yet.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:00 am

Whatever happened to all that fuss a few years back about the company that had patented online interaction in a virtual environment using avatars (ie, pretty much all online gaming)?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nordix » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:29 am

Can someone please elaborate on the hc unsok thingie?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby halabar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:15 am

KysenMurrin wrote:Whatever happened to all that fuss a few years back about the company that had patented online interaction in a virtual environment using avatars (ie, pretty much all online gaming)?


That one is still in the courts.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Passionario » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:35 am

Nordix wrote:Can someone please elaborate on the hc unsok thingie?

- Disable all DBM alerts that are not absolutely crucial to your own role.
- If you're 2-healing it, try 3-healing. If you're 3-healing, try 2-healing.
- If all else fails, get 60+ debuff stacks in P1 and try to Bloodlust him the rest of the way. :D
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nordix » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:15 pm

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby bldavis » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:23 pm

just got pulled into another political discussion on fb...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby twinkfist » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:37 pm

went with sort of new guild last night to start over on instances again. beat our previous dps records with our prior raids...by a good bit...then again, gear is better across the board. did up to elegon and then just did the first boss of HOF and would have had an attempt on the second boss but people died to attenuation a bit and some other nonsense.

the frustration came with people on vent doing some stupid klaxxi voices and acting like general dopes. this person would not stfu at all during the raid. now they are talking about kicking him...hahaha...can't win. basically the off-tank and fury dps guy.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:15 pm

Get ilevel 496 legs and chest in raid. LFR tier chest and legs drop on the next run.

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Lastwolf » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:32 am

These coins are a joke, used 3 every week, I've got 2 items, both of which I already had or had better, I'm made loads of 28golds though.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby econ21 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:08 am

Lastwolf wrote:These coins are a joke, used 3 every week, I've got 2 items, both of which I already had or had better, I'm made loads of 28golds though.


It's a 16% drop rate.

I'm happy with my coins, they are fun and make gearing up a bit more strategic. I mainly use them for second chances at LFR tier items.

I also like how you can respec and roll, e.g. for tank gear when I am dpsing in LFR. Got lucky with the Sha sword that way.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Jabari » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:18 am

LFR hates me.

2 chars run through all of them this week, 3 coins for each, ZERO items won. Not even something that I already have!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:52 am

I got 6 bags of gold in lfr, it wasnt even bis gold!
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Jabari » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:05 am

Klaudandus wrote:I got 6 bags of gold in lfr, it wasnt even bis gold!

:P

32 bags of gold for me. Well, actually 38 if you count the FailCoins. If I really WANTED gold, it's just a hair faster to do dailies and get 20G from each quest turn-in... No queue wait on those, and no Garalon-caused repair bills either.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Fetzie » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:16 am

Jabari wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:I got 6 bags of gold in lfr, it wasnt even bis gold!

:P

32 bags of gold for me. Well, actually 38 if you count the FailCoins. If I really WANTED gold, it's just a hair faster to do dailies and get 20G from each quest turn-in... No queue wait on those, and no Garalon-caused repair bills either.


I'd rather get 23 gold than a useless necklace that vendors for 15...
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby KysenMurrin » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:26 am

I'd rather have the 500g Sha Crystal. ;)
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby twinkfist » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:00 am

Did hyjal with a friend last night. I was trying to get cataclysm's edge...he the pillar of ferocity. the pillar does not drop...he cusses a bit because i've seen it 3 straight weeks. I finally saw it drop and finally got Cataclysm's Edge after what...like 4 years...5?

My friend says "grats"...i say, "let's do terrace because you know the 2h axe will drop". well, first of all, i get a 483 belt i don't need because i already have a different 483 dps belt. Waste a coin on that water boss because i want shoulders to get a 2 piece...was hoping not to get my vortex.

got the axe...now have to put cat's edge away for a while.

tried to 2 man trial of the crusader for justicebringer. first two bosses...down in no time...faction champions are whores and after they got my friend they just bled me down and healed their little hearts out.

mother'fer.

i want that axe...or else i have to settle and get someone to make me a felsteel reaper.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Shoju » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:03 pm

Paypal's stupid Report server system, and generic naming scheme of said reports makes me want to vomit all over them.

Every single report you generate takes 30 seconds to a minute to process, then each report that you download has the same generic name. Each Month, Each Subreport, Each every little report. All named the same.

FU

EDIT: And now it's starting to time out on me while generating the report .pdf to download. FU. FU FU FU FU FU FU FU FU FU FU
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby djlar » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:51 pm

Well, been waiting for Elegons trinket for a long while, since raiding started, used a coin every week on both normal and LFR, I don't need much else on MSV except the trinket, I have enough EPGP points to have priority over any agility wearers on raid, so next time it drops it's mine right?

Wrong! this week our EPGP add-on officer couldn't come, another officer takes over with it, the add-on didn't work, so it was a /roll chance, TWO trinkets dropped on Elegon, guess what I lose both rolls Vs. 2 newly recruited rogues.. FML
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:53 pm

Wait... why would you not have the info written down somewhere, in case something happened?

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Nooska » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:36 pm

Too many tank deaths on Will.

And also, apparently our new healer has disappeared off the face of Azeroth - no armory, no listing in the guild roster, though the log says (s)he was invited (by name) 4 days ago, and nothing on it since.. So again need healers - and getting to the point of needing dps too when I have to switch to tanking... soon™
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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:35 pm

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Re: Post your Frustrations.

Postby Sagara » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:49 am

Nooska wrote:Too many tank deaths on Will.

And also, apparently our new healer has disappeared off the face of Azeroth - no armory, no listing in the guild roster, though the log says (s)he was invited (by name) 4 days ago, and nothing on it since.. So again need healers - and getting to the point of needing dps too when I have to switch to tanking... soon™


HEY! YOU try surviving having both bosses on your ass :-p

I've been analysing the "critical" deaths, and the picture is pretty bleak: apart from attempt 1, Gurzog never ate arcs in the time period between the last overheal and his death, so he's actually doing pretty well in an emergency. He can do better, but he did not cause his own deaths (unless the healers were OoM)

But each and every time, Titan Gas is up, and heals seem to dry up for 5-6 secs at a time, with only HoTs ticking, or his self-heals. Not even a Tranq or Hymn. Hell, on try 2, he spent 8 secondes without heals, while there was no Titan Gas up. I'll be harsh, but it's not Gurzog that needs to step up his game.
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