Post your Frustrations.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.
Levantine wrote:Well if MMOChamp is to be believed mages are officially dead after the last round of nerfs to combustion and critical mass.
My guess is Warlock atm.
According to the MMO-champ forums, EVERYTHING's dead. Mages, Warlocks, Rogues, Warriors, even our little dog! Blizzard KILLED HIM! :-p
I'll go check warlocks out on icyveins.
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Sagara - Posts: 2487
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Well given that I don't actually play a mage, this might be totally wrong, but the Ignite nerf AND the Critical Mass nerf together seems pretty stiff for fire.
This one time I gave the posters over there the benefit of the doubt. I had a stroke.
This one time I gave the posters over there the benefit of the doubt. I had a stroke.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.
Levantine wrote:Well given that I don't actually play a mage, this might be totally wrong, but the Ignite nerf AND the Critical Mass nerf together seems pretty stiff for fire.
This one time I gave the posters over there the benefit of the doubt. I had a stroke.
Doing 60k dps with heroic only gear clearly isnt allowed
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Zoiks! Just saw the nerf. Fire mages were insane to begin with, but that must have hurt like hell.
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Sagara wrote:Levantine wrote:Well if MMOChamp is to be believed mages are officially dead after the last round of nerfs to combustion and critical mass.
My guess is Warlock atm.
According to the MMO-champ forums, EVERYTHING's dead. Mages, Warlocks, Rogues, Warriors, even our little dog! Blizzard KILLED HIM! :-p
I'll go check warlocks out on icyveins.
Meh, MMOChamp's a whiny little bitch... went on my 87 firemage last night and did some instances, and was only outdps'ed by a lvl 90 warrior and lvl 90 hunter. Even the 88 hunter and the 89 priest were way below me. Unless the scale at 90 is so terribad it's crippling... I hope not
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Jebus what a soul crushing procession of Failures, Septic Tanks, Oxygen thieves and Utter Utter retards. - masterpooba
Gnome tanks are pretty good, I mean, you don't need to wrap them in foil before roasting because they come pre-wrapped. - Pyrea
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That's part of the reason I like Wow Insider's DPS analysis post they did a couple of times: it's a generally sound premise, there are enough caveats to keep the data in perspective, and they don't (seem to) have an agenda to shove down our throats.
Also, I just might dust out my Shaman after all
Also, I just might dust out my Shaman after all
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I still wish it would not take a single Keg Smash for the monk tank to take all my threat away from me...
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Klaudandus - Posts: 9017
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well, didn't raid last night. now, some people didn't show up for any reason...but one guy had an actual legit reason.
hoping...fingers crossed...that we actually raid tomorrow night. i just want to kill something that isn't lfr.
hoping...fingers crossed...that we actually raid tomorrow night. i just want to kill something that isn't lfr.
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twinkfist - Posts: 640
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So.. our rogue was MIA last night, so we had to pug a mage...
Frustration/amusement: The poor pug mage, RL barking out "FAIL" when the pug didn't get his pillar down on time, and then again when he died. Really? You bring in a pug that hasn't done the raid on normal and you're barking at him like he's been on the raid team? (Also, barking on the first wipe? really? Method you are not).
Frustration 2: Elegon.. that dps check is a bit too tight. Even getting 4 waves of sparks both times still hitting the enrage.
Frustration 3: I'm expecting that I'll get a lot of heat and may loose my raid spot when I go on vacation for 3 weeks in January. Because yeah, the game is more important than life. Combine that with the wanna-be elitist attitudes that are gonna get really bad when we start face-wiping on heroics..
Frustration/amusement: The poor pug mage, RL barking out "FAIL" when the pug didn't get his pillar down on time, and then again when he died. Really? You bring in a pug that hasn't done the raid on normal and you're barking at him like he's been on the raid team? (Also, barking on the first wipe? really? Method you are not).
Frustration 2: Elegon.. that dps check is a bit too tight. Even getting 4 waves of sparks both times still hitting the enrage.
Frustration 3: I'm expecting that I'll get a lot of heat and may loose my raid spot when I go on vacation for 3 weeks in January. Because yeah, the game is more important than life. Combine that with the wanna-be elitist attitudes that are gonna get really bad when we start face-wiping on heroics..
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Elegon.
I like that it is a DPS check.
I like that it is an execution check.
I like that there is a tank challenge (protectors).
I like that there is a phase where you really need to dump.
But I don't like all of it together - too many points of failure, and with a group that isn't world first, and, without offending anyone in it I hope, not quite as good as when we did DS - it just seems too tightly tuned.
Also, I want a tank! (as in, an actual tank, instead of a dps tanking with Sag).
I am soo tempted to gear up my DK and tank - but that will just shift the problem to lack of DPS. I hate the first tier of an expansion, too many guilds vying for the raiders - and eventually at least 50% of them don't go through the second tier of an expansion - we just can't really wait for that.
(Also, I still don't really want to take a tank spot due to my inherent priority as a raid leader - and I've never actually tanked as a DK before, though the same was true as a druid tank in BC and as a tankadin in Cata.)
Gaah - I'll probably end up tanking anyway - maybe I should just do it and get it over with - dps should be easier to recruit... I hope...)
(Btw, if anyone is looking for a new home....)
I like that it is a DPS check.
I like that it is an execution check.
I like that there is a tank challenge (protectors).
I like that there is a phase where you really need to dump.
But I don't like all of it together - too many points of failure, and with a group that isn't world first, and, without offending anyone in it I hope, not quite as good as when we did DS - it just seems too tightly tuned.
Also, I want a tank! (as in, an actual tank, instead of a dps tanking with Sag).
I am soo tempted to gear up my DK and tank - but that will just shift the problem to lack of DPS. I hate the first tier of an expansion, too many guilds vying for the raiders - and eventually at least 50% of them don't go through the second tier of an expansion - we just can't really wait for that.
(Also, I still don't really want to take a tank spot due to my inherent priority as a raid leader - and I've never actually tanked as a DK before, though the same was true as a druid tank in BC and as a tankadin in Cata.)
Gaah - I'll probably end up tanking anyway - maybe I should just do it and get it over with - dps should be easier to recruit... I hope...)
(Btw, if anyone is looking for a new home....)
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YAY! I don't think I ever played with an above-average tank in the past... Gonna be fun 
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Re: Post your Frustrations.
halabar wrote:So.. our rogue was MIA last night, so we had to pug a mage...
Frustration/amusement: The poor pug mage, RL barking out "FAIL" when the pug didn't get his pillar down on time, and then again when he died. Really? You bring in a pug that hasn't done the raid on normal and you're barking at him like he's been on the raid team? (Also, barking on the first wipe? really? Method you are not).
Frustration 2: Elegon.. that dps check is a bit too tight. Even getting 4 waves of sparks both times still hitting the enrage.
Frustration 3: I'm expecting that I'll get a lot of heat and may loose my raid spot when I go on vacation for 3 weeks in January. Because yeah, the game is more important than life. Combine that with the wanna-be elitist attitudes that are gonna get really bad when we start face-wiping on heroics..
you could always join our guild. we "raid 2 times a week". sort of the same core since bc. we used to be pretty good. now we are casual and not very good. makes for good times.
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Re: Post your Frustrations.
Levantine wrote:Well if MMOChamp is to be believed mages are officially dead after the last round of nerfs to combustion and critical mass.
My guess is Warlock atm.
Isn't Frost pretty good still?
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* Leave school campus
* Get to office
* See work order placed just minutes after you left said campus
* Said campus is 8 miles away

I said it before, I love my work... I just hate the people I have to deal with...
The avg clearance per technician so far this week is 7 work orders... I've cleared 68... I am usually #2 or #3 (the guys that normally gets #1 and #2 are programmers and every call they get is technically logged in as a work order)
Have I mentioned my OCD?

* Get to office
* See work order placed just minutes after you left said campus
* Said campus is 8 miles away
I said it before, I love my work... I just hate the people I have to deal with...
The avg clearance per technician so far this week is 7 work orders... I've cleared 68... I am usually #2 or #3 (the guys that normally gets #1 and #2 are programmers and every call they get is technically logged in as a work order)
Have I mentioned my OCD?
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Re: Post your Frustrations.
KysenMurrin wrote:Levantine wrote:Well if MMOChamp is to be believed mages are officially dead after the last round of nerfs to combustion and critical mass.
My guess is Warlock atm.
Isn't Frost pretty good still?
Thought frost was top dps now..
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