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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Shoju » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:23 am

Worldie wrote:I dislike the idea of letting you transmog say, an axe into a sword. Kinda removes the weapon type flavour.


I on the other hand, as someone who played a DW DPS, wholly approve of allowing a Frost DK to wield 2 awesomely identicaly weapons. I would have been able to pair down all of my Weapons I had saved, down to just my favorite models.

2h'd
1h'd

Obviously I'd keep more than that, but those are the two models that I would use for my DK more often than anything else. Trolls, Death Knights, and Axes. Just something awesome about that.

I would have always loved to have picked up This because I thought it felt "trolly" but never could get a group to go back after it when mogging went in.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby halabar » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:01 am

twinkfist wrote:
Worldie wrote:I dislike the idea of letting you transmog say, an axe into a sword. Kinda removes the weapon type flavour.


completely agree. why even have different types of weapons now? just give everyone a piece of foam and go at it.

honestly...if they are doing this...why don't they just bring back all the old blacksmithing plans...i want LOLherald and bloodmoon...and let people be able to use the grand marshal's gear. who gives a flying crap anymore?

i'm sort of not digging the homogenization of everything. if i have an axe...i have an axe. if i have a sword...i have a sword.

i do like the one hand/main hand thing. i was going to say i was looking forward to a tanking mace so i can now use the merciless gladiator's gavel for tanking...but now i just need a feather or whatever and i can transmog it.

wtf?



I disagree, mainly because there are so many cool older models that can't be used now due to the MH/OH issue. Especially since most of the daggers look like swords now anyway. There are some issues with animations now, but really, the combat animations mostly suck, and who really pays attention to that anyway? If the weapons work with the combat poses, they should be allowed.

If they really don't want it, then they need to get off their lazy butts and add more weapon models and options to current tiers.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Klaudandus » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:07 am

I just want Polearms and 2H Axes to be interchangeable!
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby benebarba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:26 am

To be honest, I never much saw the reason for the weapon type limit. Apparently the outcry by the hunter community (or a dev who favored the idea enough) was sufficient to not have to deal with whatever weapon type the current tier drops when you don't actually like the sound or look.

Personally, I hope they drop the MH/OH at least so I can wield the awesome Northshire Battlemace.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Teranoid » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:53 am

twinkfist wrote:
Worldie wrote:I dislike the idea of letting you transmog say, an axe into a sword. Kinda removes the weapon type flavour.


completely agree. why even have different types of weapons now? just give everyone a piece of foam and go at it.

honestly...if they are doing this...why don't they just bring back all the old blacksmithing plans...i want LOLherald and bloodmoon...and let people be able to use the grand marshal's gear. who gives a flying crap anymore?

i'm sort of not digging the homogenization of everything. if i have an axe...i have an axe. if i have a sword...i have a sword.

i do like the one hand/main hand thing. i was going to say i was looking forward to a tanking mace so i can now use the merciless gladiator's gavel for tanking...but now i just need a feather or whatever and i can transmog it.

wtf?


Then don't xmog it? Seriously this is one of the most petty things to complain about. Trying to make some slippery slope argument about changing the look of a weapon is ridiculous.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby twinkfist » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:07 pm

but that's my point then...what's the point of having any sort of weapon? or racial for that matter for expertise or anything?

you have an axe...you get an axe.

plus, if they are going this way...don't half ass it...make everything available.

EDIT: actually terranoid...you make a good point. didn't really think about it that way.

still, if they are talking about accessability all the time...then i would prefer all things to be accessible. like, the old bs plans for the weapons and the grand marshal gear.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby benebarba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:46 pm

the argument about racials is a pretty poor strawman: you don't get a different weapon bonus through transmog. I feel like the weapon-specific bonuses are largely irrelevant flavor (though also basically a way of making it have some limits), especially now that daggers look like big swords (some are bigger than some sword models), swords like a bugs leg, axes like a razor blade on a stick, and maces can look like beer mugs.

unless they let me get a better bonus for using something I think is hideously ugly and doesn't match my shoes... then I'll be all for it. :P

But I'm all for accessible patterns for old gear (even if they were cosmetic only). I don't mind so much the limited access to some specific gear sets (though I think maybe a recolor should be available), especially if they had an achievement or some such thing to go with it.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Passionario » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:34 pm

twinkfist wrote:you have an axe...you get an axe.

On other hand, the entire point of transmogrification is "making things look like different things".
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby benebarba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:39 pm

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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Worldie » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:41 pm

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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby twinkfist » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:43 pm

Passionario wrote:
twinkfist wrote:you have an axe...you get an axe.

On other hand, the entire point of transmogrification is "making things look like different things".


but it's still a sword to sword...axe to axe...mace to mace.

but honestly, after reading the rationale...it made much more sense than my rambling so i'm on board with it.

i mean, i've been wanting to have the merciless gladiator gavel as my tanking weapon since forever. was my first epic tanking weapon so i guess it actually let's me have what i want.

my argument was actually pretty stupid after thinking about it. i was thinking, "well, what's the point of calling it an axe if it can be "changed" into a sword"...but then after everyone pointed out it out...yeah, it's kind of dumb.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:31 pm

Klaudandus wrote:Has anyone been able to store upgradeable gear into Void Storage?

It was in the patch notes stating that you can't put upgraded gear in Void Storage.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Lastwolf » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:16 am

It's long over due, All my older transmog stuff is main hand, I have a one-handed weapon for ages it's annoying not being able to change it.
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Newsom » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:56 am

I'm very excited about this. So many good looking main hand swords that I haven't been able to use. :D
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Re: Void Storage and Transmogrifier's

Postby Shoju » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:51 am

With it giving Main Hand Weapons the ability to be mogged, here si a short list of MH Weapons that I always loved.

Zulian Scepter of Rites I would have totally DW'd them on my DK.
BUBBLES!!!!!!!!!!! Yes. I forsee people DW'ing these.
Also known as the Cudgel Good Weapon model.
Shockwave Truncheon Maybe I'm alone. I love the animation on this model.
Greatsword of Horrid Dreams I tanked with this. I thought it was AWESOME.
Fang of the Leviathan Frekkin' awesome model.
Lollipop Will definitely get used by paladins, and I'm sure some other classes.
Tempest of Chaos Definitely going to see use again.
Infection Repulser Good and bulky
Life and Death Man.. that thing is SEXY
Bone Golem Scapula A Million Death KNights cried out as they realized they could DW this now.
DK's Sword fun
The Many Spellswords of Wotlk I bet you see this one too.
Arthas Mace I bet you see this one too.
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