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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:30 pm

halabar wrote:Well, they are introducing 1 new rep per faction... :-)

I'll reserve judgment until it's for sure they're sticking with the dailies only method of rep gains. And even if that's the case, they'd also have to hide the VP gear behind those reps for it to even be a concern.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:32 pm

bldavis wrote:which is fine, if you get the drops
what if you are like klaud and nika in previous tiers and teh bosses horde all of a slot and laugh at you?
that is when a valor piece is prob a good idea
plus if you have everything else upgraded already

if you havent guessed, i am stating several weeks/months down the road, not the week it comes out


sadly, most of the cursed slots aren't available from valor... (although it's a fair point I may be forced to get the poorly itemized valor legs if I can't ditch the 463 that I have).

and I think you may have missed my point. I'm not saying skip them entirely, but I am saying that a RL expecting everyone to be Rep-capped in 2 weeks or whatever is asking way too much. You took my original exaggeration of a certain RL and twisted it around to everyone who doesn't spend all their time maximizing a raid toon is a leech.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:45 pm

Skye1013 wrote:
halabar wrote:Well, they are introducing 1 new rep per faction... :-)

I'll reserve judgment until it's for sure they're sticking with the dailies only method of rep gains. And even if that's the case, they'd also have to hide the VP gear behind those reps for it to even be a concern.


Well since you asked... I believe dailes are the only method, but there's an added twist. The rep gear is ilvl 496 boots and belts.

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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:59 pm

Er...why is Mastery green on that?
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby halabar » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:02 pm

Skye1013 wrote:Er...why is Mastery green on that?


dunno, ask wowinsider.... :arrow:
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Sabindeus » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:07 pm

They changed the way item tooltips work. They got rid of the Equip: text and now all secondary stats are listed the same as primaries but in green.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:19 pm

But then... why isn't spirit in green text? Is it not considered a secondary stat?
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Nooska » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:29 pm

Not on current gear no, (its listed with primaries on current gear as well)
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Worldie » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:49 pm

Spirit is like the special kid of the stats: It's listed as a primary, but counts as secondary for reforging and itemization purposes.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:01 am

Still don't know why they don't just combine spirit and hit into the same stat. As it is, there are only 2 int based classes that don't want to see spirit on their gear.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby degre » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:45 am

bldavis wrote:idgara what you do
i was just saying if someone is still needing gear, and wants to purchase it, then they still need to use rep to get them
i am all for upgrading your best slot first, but once they are fully upgraded, why not fill in low slots?

and im sorry but this is YOU
that isnt the same for everyone

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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Worldie » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:49 am

Skye1013 wrote:Still don't know why they don't just combine spirit and hit into the same stat. As it is, there are only 2 int based classes that don't want to see spirit on their gear.

Mainly because they want to keep the distinction between dps cloth and healer cloth, and dps accessories and healer accessories i believe.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Sabindeus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:12 am

Skye1013 wrote:Still don't know why they don't just combine spirit and hit into the same stat. As it is, there are only 2 int based classes that don't want to see spirit on their gear.


Maybe then we can finally have holy paladins wear Str plate and get rid of the abomination that is Int plate.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby Worldie » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:14 am

Int plate would make much more sense if they introduced a 2nd class that uses it though.
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Re: Valor reward discussion

Postby theckhd » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:52 am

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Skye1013 wrote:Still don't know why they don't just combine spirit and hit into the same stat. As it is, there are only 2 int based classes that don't want to see spirit on their gear.


Maybe then we can finally have holy paladins wear Str plate and get rid of the abomination that is Int plate.


How would combining spirit and hit fix that problem? They still wouldn't want str/hit gear.

Or are you saying that when they consolidate hit and spirit, they should go ahead and do the same with STR/Int, or re-work holy paladin mechanics (which is fair IMO - all it would take is a "Guarded by the Light"-esque passive that reads, "Strength bonuses from gear reward intellect instead").
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