LGBT rights discussion

[Levantine]

Saw that on my facebook earlier today. Shit was lost.

[Amirya]

I probably shouldn't be giggling like a fiend just before I go to bed. That was, indeed, hilarious.

[Skye1013]

A motherfucking quiche.

[Sabindeus]

Wasn't sure where to put this, but I found it hilarious:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/1 ... 17777.html

What if you DO support gay marriage but DON'T have a girlfriend???




Then... nothing... I guess...

/sigh

[Nikachelle]

You're still allowed to see the humour!

Or go learn to make a quiche. That should pull in all the ladies.

[Levantine]

Bitches love quiche.

[Io.Draco]

I'll get excited when we can elect an athiest.

we're getting closer and closer

Not that it would really matter in the end. As a Christian I don't consider the people leading America as real Christians. You don't act to cause suffering to anyone as a real christian which they have so many times through their foreign policy and internal policy.

[Skye1013]

Not that it would really matter in the end for me.

FIFY. Sure, others might also think like you, but there are many that don't, so electing an atheist would cause people to go more apeshit insane than Romney's loss.

[Io.Draco]

Sure people would go insane over it, I don't doubt that, my point however was about the fact that it would not change how decisions in Washington are made.

I think what America really needs is to drop the religion issue when electing politicians. It shouldn't fucking matter, but it sadly does.

[Sabindeus]

I think what America really needs is to drop the religion issue when electing politicians. It shouldn't fucking matter, but it sadly does.

Yeah, that's what I was saying.

[Fridmarr]

Well it's a bit hypocritical to say it doesn't matter on one hand and say you'd like to see an athiest elected on other. Having read through most of this thread and the politics thread, it seems to me that the presence of religion means more to those who aren't religious than those who are.

[Treck]

Having read through most of this thread and the politics thread, it seems to me that the presence of religion means more to those who aren't religious than those who are.

Just like it seems people eating meat means more to those who dont eat meat, than for those who do.

[Invisusira]

Well it's a bit hypocritical to say it doesn't matter on one hand and say you'd like to see an athiest elected on other. Having read through most of this thread and the politics thread, it seems to me that the presence of religion means more to those who aren't religious than those who are.

You're absolutely right, it DOES matter a lot more to us. Why? Because, as non-religious or non-Christian Americans, we're the ones who are forced to live with it every single day. When half a country is so gung-ho to elect an candidate based on the fact that he is so openly Christian and vows to get the country back to God and cure it of the gay instead of ACTUAL POLITICAL ISSUES, there is something absolutely disgustingly wrong with how shit works.

America was founded on the principle of freedom of - and freedom from - religion. We all know the separation of church and state is... not quite there. When we have someone looking to set the country back 50 years with his views on basic civil rights for women and gays almost get elected, you damn well better believe religion matters to us.

[Fridmarr]

You're absolutely right, it DOES matter a lot more to us. Why? Because, as non-religious or non-Christian Americans, we're the ones who are forced to live with it every single day. When half a country is so gung-ho to elect an candidate based on the fact that he is so openly Christian and vows to get the country back to God and cure it of the gay instead of ACTUAL POLITICAL ISSUES, there is something absolutely disgustingly wrong with how shit works.

America was founded on the principle of freedom of - and freedom from - religion. We all know the separation of church and state is... not quite there. When we have someone looking to set the country back 50 years with his views on basic civil rights for women and gays almost get elected, you damn well better believe religion matters to us.

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But it ought to be about that candidate's views, and not one's own prejudices about religion in general. That is the same sort of gross generalization used to justify the worst sorts of human behavior.

That said, if someone hates religion that's fine with me, they just shouldn't say that religion shouldn't matter to anyone, while it clearly does to them.

For the record, freedom "from" religion, is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. That would imply that anyone who makes a public comment about religion is violating your rights and is therefore committing a crime. There could not possibly be anything less American than that. The government isn't responsible to keep you free from religion, they are responsible to protect your religious choices and to treat religions equally.

[Invisusira]

I completely and totally agree 100%, Fridmarr. I do not support voting on candidates based on prejudices towards religion at all; in fact, that's precisely what my post was talking about - the thousands upon thousands of people who voted for Romney based solely on the fact that he's an Honest Christian trying to Return the Country to God.

My freedom from religion comment is simply based in the fact that I do not want any sort of religious morales forced on my by law. Gay marriage is an excellent example of something which is outlawed simply because Christians find it offensive; there is no actual reason for it to be illegal. I have zero problems with public comments about religion or any of that other sort of stuff you mentioned; that's precisely the ridiculous self-important attitude (not talking about you, talking about the I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING I DONT LIKE people) I despise.