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[10N] Garalon

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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby daishan » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:51 am

We got to kill it twice last night...
First time it despawned just as we killed it we all got 25 VP but no loot then killed it for real on the next go :roll:
We 2 tanked 3 healed using 4 kiters (the tanks and 2 ranged dps).
Our heals are a little on the weak side so may well of struggled just 2 healing it, but then we didn't do a perfect job of kiting, no extra crushes but he did get one stack of fury on one of the switches, sometimes pretty tight putting the trail in the correct place as a tank when he's moving slow. We found it helped leaving 1 leg alive so he didn't get to far away from the trail.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby baleogthefierce » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:19 am

daishan wrote:sometimes pretty tight putting the trail in the correct place as a tank when he's moving slow. We found it helped leaving 1 leg alive so he didn't get to far away from the trail.


Yeah we found that sometimes the kiter had to drop the puddles in a honeycomb pattern to not get too far ahead of the boss.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Rhagen » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:08 pm

Tried this fight tonight for first time i can see why Prot Paladins are great, i was Prot cause as Ret i took just to much damage, other tank went Fury, Shield of righteous is just OP for this.
Had a couple 15% wipes to enrage but wont be long til it dies, suprised how relative quick we learned it considering ive heard horror stories bout the fight.
we used 3 ranged and 1 healer for the Pheromone Kiting and was working great for us.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Nova » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:42 am

One question, how are you passing the pheromones to the tanks? Doesn't it get puddles in the middle near the boss?

Edit: Nevermind. I saw the video you posted above, and now I understand. While I haven't done the fight yet (this week hopefull), I didn't think you could kite him while standing in it's frontal cone assault range.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby frontallobe » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:25 pm

Ok, we finally killed this tonight. I made a video of just the tips and tricks we used to kill it. This isn't a guide but a more DONT DO THIS because we wiped 5x to this.. wasted a night trying this..etc.. goal is to help your kill avoid all of our unnecessary wipes. http://youtu.be/_GDFWZLNzZQ
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Phonic » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:11 pm

Hey guys,

I'm getting completely TRUCKED by the boss. My Blood DK cotank is barely tanking 40% of the damage I'm taking from the Furious Swipes... Am i doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

Logs:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/cw3f2fg74frpl4yi/
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:45 pm

How high do people stack? We've been killing it with 2t/3h and 3 kiters -- 2 tanks and one of the healers kiting. We take it to about 30 stacks. This past week with 3 melee DPS we were routinely wiping at the enrage at 2% or less -- after doing this three times we swapped in a ranged and killed it with about 3 seconds to enrage.

With the Combat Rogue nerf we're probably just going to have to 2t/2h and 4 kite it. I'm also thinking of changing our kite pattern a little -- instead of flush against the wall, see if we can't do a smaller loop that will always expose all the legs, instead of sometimes firmly planting two legs in the goddamn wall half the time. Or are smart people already doing this?

There's really only enough time for two laps, so having the pools not against the wall doesn't seem horrible.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Winkle » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:06 am

We did 20 stacks and 4 kiters (3 healers and a ranged dps). We kited round the edge only didn't really have to many issues with attacking all 4 legs, when the kiter is sufficiently far from the boss the boss basically just turns in a circle anyway.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Winkle » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:08 am

Phonic wrote:Hey guys,

I'm getting completely TRUCKED by the boss. My Blood DK cotank is barely tanking 40% of the damage I'm taking from the Furious Swipes... Am i doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

Logs:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/cw3f2fg74frpl4yi/


I didn't check the logs but since you can have shield of the righteous up for very Furious Swipe there's no reason you should be taking abnormal damage.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Rhiannon » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:05 am

Phonic wrote:Hey guys,

I'm getting completely TRUCKED by the boss. My Blood DK cotank is barely tanking 40% of the damage I'm taking from the Furious Swipes... Am i doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

Logs:

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/cw3f2fg74frpl4yi/


Eh, looking at your 3 longest tries your dk's taking same or more damage from furious swipes?

Edit: I see on try 6 you died early and up to that point you took a lot more damage than he did from furious swipe. You didn't cast shield of the righteous at all on this try which is a bit mind-boggling given his burst is all physical. You were kiting for a large part of it, but still, not the whole 85 seconds or so until you died.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Chronos » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:10 am

Highly suggest 1.5 tanking for 10N plus three healers and four kiters. Tanked cleaves as ret, with selfless healer and flash heal plus glyphed divine protection. Was able to match our other dps's damage since I could soak cleaves while inside front leg circles.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Nova » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:25 am

Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me.

We're having trouble with messy pulls. What do you recommend for a flawless pull of the boss? Sometimes the first guy gets a Furious Swipe, other times he goes to the back of the room and Garalon just reaches him...

Also, why do you recommend a tank having the Pheromones? It's very complicated to both tank him in melee range so you can attack him and keep the pheromone trails in check... any suggestions for this? Thanks a lot in advance.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby frontallobe » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:43 am

We spent a night doing the tank kiting and just found it too cumbersome.

The pull is pretty simple but we screwed it up a ton too. Check out the pull strat we do in the video http://youtu.be/_GDFWZLNzZQ

You should have your shield of the righteous up for the swipe. It's pretty easy to have it up each time which really helps your healers out. AND you can be in the double damage circle and take the swipe simultaneously. Hope this helps!
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Chronos » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:19 am

Nova wrote:Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me.

We're having trouble with messy pulls. What do you recommend for a flawless pull of the boss? Sometimes the first guy gets a Furious Swipe, other times he goes to the back of the room and Garalon just reaches him...

Also, why do you recommend a tank having the Pheromones? It's very complicated to both tank him in melee range so you can attack him and keep the pheromone trails in check... any suggestions for this? Thanks a lot in advance.

Don't have tanks kite. The biggest reason to have ranged dps or healers to kite is that the boss will be more in the middle of the room with all legs attack able. When we had tanks kiting, boss often was too close to edge and legs would be "out of sight" and unattackable. Changing to 1.5tanks 3 heals and 4 ranged/healer kiting made it so much easier for clean pulls, good positioning, and way ahead of enrage timer. If you do use a tank to kite, he can sacrifice his already low dps to drop pools properly while staying in range of furious swipe. Our 1st kiter started dropping pools in corner and we moved down the long edge of the room. Pheromones is initially applied to whoever is closest to boss when he first casts it. We started with a mage or a mist Weaver who could be closest to pick up pheromones then rapidly get away. Some teleports seem to cause boss to spin but blink works fine. Hero on pull to destroy legs.
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Re: [10N] Garalon

Postby Volitaire » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:07 pm

We did not worry about the tank dps at all during our pulls. While I was kiting I would simply ensure I was within the swipe range and cleanly setting the pools. We did 1.5 tank it like I stated before. With the 1.5 tank setup myself and the half tank would dps the front leg that was along the wall as we had easy access to it while everyone else concerned themselves with the rest. We were well within the enrage timer using this setup during week one.
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