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[halabar]

Realized this past weekend that the BMAH isn't the biggest goldsink in Panda, the Tillers are. Considering the food-for-rep turn-ins plus the turn-ins for Ironpaw tokens, those are taking big chunks of gold in the way of farmed or purchased mats out of the game.

[Nikachelle]

Your friends are rich, oh nice, I am sure that your X friends are a mirror of the total wow population and that Blizzard is just making excuses to rip your money.

Sounds to me a bit like 'naxx was the best raid!', then worked out that people who had actually seen it were in the null-point range while that null-point believe to be the the typical wow-player.

Your own argument kind of goes right back in on itself. You have to look at the kinds of people who would want to server transfer. It's unlikely that someone who logs in irregularly to do a dungeon once a week (and as a result, probably doesn't have much gold) would be likely to server transfer. So the typical WoW player who is likely to server transfer is probably someone who has a lot more invested in their character(s) and will likely have more gold than the average player.

Edit: The other thing I'm wondering if they look at is by character? Or by account? Currently, all of my gold is spread out over 11 characters. I have well over 50k, but if you looked at each individual character, you'd assume I was pretty poor.

[Klaudandus]

I have at least 50k in each character. =p

[Treck]

Realized this past weekend that the BMAH isn't the biggest goldsink in Panda, the Tillers are. Considering the food-for-rep turn-ins plus the turn-ins for Ironpaw tokens, those are taking big chunks of gold in the way of farmed or purchased mats out of the game.

Thats not really removing gold tho, its just redistributing it since you still have to get the mats, or grow them.

[halabar]

Realized this past weekend that the BMAH isn't the biggest goldsink in Panda, the Tillers are. Considering the food-for-rep turn-ins plus the turn-ins for Ironpaw tokens, those are taking big chunks of gold in the way of farmed or purchased mats out of the game.

Thats not really removing gold tho, its just redistributing it since you still have to get the mats, or grow them.

But the mats/gold are being given to NPCs for rep or turned in to the NPC to replenish the pantry. Considering that the average meat is at least 10G each, and you turn in 20 for one token, and you need one for each feast, that's removing gold from the economy. Likewise, some of the rep food turnins are worth 200G each or more of cooking mats, so again, removing potential gold from the economy.

And consider the # of players with farms, all doing this.

[Treck]

Well, I agree cooking in this expansion is a lot more expencive than before, but I wouldnt say foodbuffs are a goldsink, even if it costs a lot of gold.
Thats like saying enchanting and gems are a goldsink, just not as expensive.

[Klaudandus]

And if you dont raid, you can make a lot of money rather than lose money on it.

[Flex]

Considering that the average meat is at least 10G each, and you turn in 20 for one token, and you need one for each feast, that's removing gold from the economy.
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so again, removing potential gold from the economy

Isn't it still redistribution though? If you sell your 20 stack of tiger meat instead of using them for the pantry you aren't creating gold, you're redistributing it amongst the players and removing some from the economy due to AH fees. Turning in the meat for the token doesn't remove any gold from the economy.

Gold sinks are methods of removing gold from the player economy. 18K special items for the engineering mounts are a goldsink, BMAH is a goldsink, Tillers doesn't seem to fit that definition. So for personal wealth not selling the items may be a "gold sink" when compared to trading them in for a token.

[bldavis]

dammit i hate when i agree with flex!

on a side note

[halabar]

...So for personal wealth not selling the items may be a "gold sink" when compared to trading them in for a token.

Ok, I'll buy that, but it certainly does have a monetary impact.

[Klaudandus]

dammit i hate when i agree with flex!

on a side note

It's missing the propeller

[Klaudandus]

This made me lol more than it shoulda

http://www.timesofisrael.com/your-shwarma-or-your-life/

[Amirya]

Yoga teaches Eastern religions...

[halabar]

Yoga teaches Eastern religions...

Gonna have to call you on that one. Yoga is certainly based on eastern religions.

Yoga (Sanskrit, Pāli: योग, /ˈjəʊɡə/, yoga) is a commonly known generic term for physical, mental, and spiritual disciplines which originated in ancient India.[1][2] Specifically, yoga is one of the six āstika ("orthodox") schools of Hindu philosophy. It is based on the Yoga Sūtras of Patañjali. Various traditions of yoga are found in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism.[3][4][5]

While there is certainly a "westernized" form of Yoga, much of the way it is taught still has it's roots in eastern religion basics.

When it was mandated that as part of college class, I observed, rather than participated, in the mandatory class, and sure enough, much of the discussion and practice was all around "centers of energy, chi, etc".

I also don't think it's possible to totally remove the eastern influences from it, without replacing it with something else. There are "christian" versions of yoga, and even mystic jewish versions, but when you are told to meditate, you usually have some framework to that.

So the parents should at least have the option to opt their kids out of it, and if enough of the parents feel that way, the school should find another option. The fact that the effort is funded by a yoga 'school' that's making waves in that community also gives pause.

So yeah, this doesn't fall into the normal insanity. The parents have a right to object.

[Skye1013]

Not sure this really qualifies as an amusement so much as a "dafuq?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... 02848.html

Edit: Sorry, apparently this is already being discussed in frustrations... /shrug

[Amirya]

I didn't say based, though, I said teaches.

Also, if the parents are objecting, then why don't they just pull the kids out instead suing over an extracurricular activity?

This is, to me, as dumb as if I decided to sue my high school over football encouraging head injuries.

[Skye1013]

So the parents should at least have the option to opt their kids out of it, and if enough of the parents feel that way, the school should find another option. The fact that the effort is funded by a yoga 'school' that's making waves in that community also gives pause.

Judging by the fact the article states that some parents have pulled their kids out of the class because they object... it's obviously an option, so the lawsuit threat is a tad overkill. It's not like the school is forcing every kid to attend these classes, is it?

[Shoju]

I heard someone refer to marxism as a "science and mode of analysis".

I giggled.

[halabar]

So the parents should at least have the option to opt their kids out of it, and if enough of the parents feel that way, the school should find another option. The fact that the effort is funded by a yoga 'school' that's making waves in that community also gives pause.

Judging by the fact the article states that some parents have pulled their kids out of the class because they object... it's obviously an option, so the lawsuit threat is a tad overkill. It's not like the school is forcing every kid to attend these classes, is it?

Depends. The article wasn't clear enough on that. Doesn't say if the district is providing an alternate class for these kids.

[halabar]

I didn't say based, though, I said teaches.

But it does teach the fundamentals, which are really key to Hindu "theology" for lack of a better word.

Again, consider this is being funded by an outside group that certainly has an agenda to promote their belief system. (I'm also suprised the Mormon church in the area hasn't stepped into the fray on this, they are big down there).

[Shoju]

All I'm hearing is

ZOMG MY KIDS MIGHT LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY INCREDIBLY NARROW PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THINGS OMG WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY CAN'T MY KIDS JUST BE FORCE FED WHAT I WANT THEM TO KNOW!?

Sorry, I don't see what the big deal is. The article states that they have taken as much of the religion out of it as possible, and it's being used as a form of being active.

I'd be more worried about what little johnny and jenny are learning on the playground from their school friends than in a class about yoga.

But then, I'm the type of person who wants my kids to learn about all types of things, and then make up their own mind on what they believe.

[Amirya]

Again, consider this is being funded by an outside group that certainly has an agenda to promote their belief system. (I'm also suprised the Mormon church in the area hasn't stepped into the fray on this, they are big down there).

I can't buy that at all.

Granted, it's been well over a decade, but when I was attending high school, the Mormon church had an arrangement with my (and presumably other public) high school, in which the "pre-first class" hour was seminary, and all the good Mormons went there to study.

I'm not Mormon, so I didn't attend. But by that logic, shouldn't my mother have been eligible to sue the public school system for "having an agenda to promote their belief system"?

Also, what's the difference between meditation and prayer? It's all about having a personal moment or few to connect with <whatever>, in the end.

[halabar]

All I'm hearing is

ZOMG MY KIDS MIGHT LEARN ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY INCREDIBLY NARROW PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THINGS OMG WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHY CAN'T MY KIDS JUST BE FORCE FED WHAT I WANT THEM TO KNOW!?

Sorry, I don't see what the big deal is. The article states that they have taken as much of the religion out of it as possible, and it's being used as a form of being active.

WTF?

So, if I have children, you as a school adminstrator can decide that I'm being narrow-minded and teach my kids what you feel is appropriate, including religions other than my own? FU

So it's OK for an atheist to sue about the pledge and "In God we Trust", but it's not ok for someone to be against a exercise system that a core part of Hindu meditation?

[halabar]

Also, what's the difference between meditation and prayer? It's all about having a personal moment or few to connect with <whatever>, in the end.

The difference is what you are focusing on. A higher power, your inner space, your energy center, what you just had for lunch.

Like I said, having gone through this in my college course, it was clear that while it was supposed to be religious-neutral, the instructor still has to give instructions on what to focus on. For yoga, it's inner-energy-chi-etc.

The core problem is that a 10 or 12 year old kid may not realize what the difference is from what he's taught at home.

[Era]