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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:15 am

Skye1013 wrote:Part of what spawned this whole thread might be getting put to rest.

http://www.sdgln.com/news/2012/09/18/ch ... tment-gays


Hm... False alarm?

http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/0 ... as-changed
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby lythac » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:25 am

KysenMurrin wrote:the 1 hour a week I-can't-remember-the-name class that covered all sorts. By age 13-14 it was pretty much entirely about STDs.


PSHE (Personal, Social and Health Education)?

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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:55 am

Aha. That's it.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:39 pm

Ann Coulter is an idiot.

Civil Rights Are Only 'For Blacks'
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Aubade » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:59 pm

......I couldn't believe what the FUCK was just coming out of her mouth.

I normally don't wish this on people, but someone needs to kill her. Like now.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Aubade » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:01 pm

Actually no. she deserves worse. She needs to be locked up and forced to read facts and history for the rest of her life.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby katraya » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:46 pm

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This seriously cracked me up. I'm a terrible person.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:54 am

http://news.yahoo.com/chick-fil-chief-s ... 23795.html

I wonder if they support selling your daughter into slavery or having more than one wife... Hey, Abraham did it!
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Brekkie » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:38 pm

Aubade wrote:Actually no. she deserves worse. She needs to be locked up and forced to read facts and history for the rest of her life.

I would happen to ENJOY that! :P
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Shoju » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:44 pm

Klaudandus wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/chick-fil-chief-support-biblical-families-154623795.html

I wonder if they support selling your daughter into slavery or having more than one wife... Hey, Abraham did it!


I wonder if he is going to let his son take his inheritance early so that he can go to vegas, and blow it on strippers and blow, only to welcome him back with opens arms when he's broke.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Klaudandus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:51 pm

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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:43 pm

I like his writing style.

I also read the original article and have known plenty of people that grew up in homes with "traditional" families that didn't feel it was a "safe environment."
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Shoju » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:55 am

Skye1013 wrote:I like his writing style.

I also read the original article and have known plenty of people that grew up in homes with "traditional" families that didn't feel it was a "safe environment."


Traditional Families... Like mine. Where you know.... Every important talk I should have had as a kid boiled down to "Don't do it, or you're going to hell!"

Yep... That's the way to raise kids...
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Skye1013 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:37 pm

Pretty sure I still haven't had "the birds and the bees" chat with my parents. All I can recall is my mom saying if my sis and I were ever thinking about it... to come talk to her first... but I digress.

My foster sister actually grew up with a "traditional" family. She was more or less a prisoner in the house. Sometime in her early to mid twenties she finally got enough courage to run away and seek help. At the time, she had six or seven brothers and sisters. Not sure if that number has increased because her parents disappeared not too long after they were deemed "fit" to get their kids back from CPS. The oldest son was pretty well brainwashed, the next three were old enough to move away, but the youngest weren't so lucky (ages were from about two years old to late twenties.) I'm not going to type up her entire story here, but even as a single anecdote, it flies in the face of the traditional family argument.

There is no 100% guarantee that just because a family is one way or another that the children will end up the same. But I guess it's okay to have a double standard ("there are exceptions with traditional families, but not with non-traditional ones!"), so long as the status quo is maintained...
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Shoju » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:04 am

I have been pretty open about it with my oldest. He's also not dumb, and can do math. He became eligible to get his permit (15 and 1/2) on 9/5.

I turned 33 on 9/18.
His mom will turn 33 in December.


I'm also not dumb, and I know what I did as a teen. I was an idiot. I told him that I don't expect he is going to be a chaste virgin until he's out of college, and find some girl, who is also just as chaste as himself. But, I've tried as hard as I can to make sure that he is at least smart about it. Understanding the importance of both the emotional / psychological side of it, and how to stay healthy, and not a daddy.

I'm not saying that my lack of a sex talk is to blame either. I will say that everything coming down to "DON'T! OR YOU'LL GO TO HELL!" certainly didn't help, and it surely pissed me (and my sister) off. It was almost a competition at times to see who could "Go to HELL!" faster.

I'm pretty sure I won that contest.

But I digress, I think that making sure your kids aren't oblivious is important. That goes for Sex, Puberty, Race, Culture, etc... Don't rely on the interwebz and the tv to teach them and then be surprised when they do dumb shit.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Paxen » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:14 am

Klaudandus wrote:Mr Kluwe continues being awesome!


Indeed!

And apparently he's a WoW player as well?
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Klaudandus » Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:27 am

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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Shoju » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:10 am

Oh they didn't...

Is that a new thing?
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Malthrax » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:38 am

What, you've never heard the expression, "nutty as a fruitcake" before?
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Shoju » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:28 pm

Malthrax wrote:What, you've never heard the expression, "nutty as a fruitcake" before?


Yes. I've heard the expression. And I've also heard of people using Fruitcake as a term for Homosexuals (most often men). In light of all the bad press that they have had recently, if that is a new sign, you would think that someone would have told them it was a bad idea.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Petrus » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:36 pm

Paxen wrote:
Klaudandus wrote:Mr Kluwe continues being awesome!


Indeed!

And apparently he's a WoW player as well?


He was a WoW player. He has two kids now and quit in early Cataclysm, but he played a troll rogue named Loate.

Despite that, he is still an active gamer, and tweets about it frequently (his tag is still @ChrisWarcraft). His post-game tweets are especially fantastic.

Even with the lack of super bowl history, I love being a Vikings fan because of Kluwe. I'm seriously considering buying a custom jersey with his name on the back because of his outspokenness regarding gay marriage.

Here's his most recent video, this time from Minnesotans United for All Families.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Shoju » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:53 am

I was really hoping that it was just a U.S. Problem. But....

Nick Griffin, British National Party Chairman and Member of the European Parliament for the North West region, just tweeted the address of a Gay couple who won a lawsuit because a bed and breakfast refused to rent them a previously booked room because they were gay along with a thinly veiled threat:

English Homophobe in 2 tweets wrote:So Messrs Black & Morgan, at [ADDRESS REMOVED BY SHOJU]. A British Justice team will come up to Huntington & give you a . . .bit of drama by way of reminding you that an English couple's home is their castle. Say No to heterophobia!



He then (as my Screenshot will show) went on to spew at Muslims in the process.

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Man... This guy is awful. I don't know about England, but here in the US, this could be considered a crime.
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Klaudandus » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:11 am

Meek and forgiving christians? I guess he aint talking bout himself
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

Postby Aubade » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:32 am

I think I'm just gonna get a tattoo on my forehead. It's going to say

"If you believe in God, and make decisions based on that alone, LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE"
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Re: LGBT rights discussion

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