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So as we all know we were pretty good friends with askmrrobot during the last expansion. As such I was hoping to remain good friends for this expansion and make my life a bit easier. Though from what I have read on Theck's blog and such that it isn't really prioritizing everything exactly the way we would want. Anyone have some good custom weights they are using?
Currently I am using a setup that gets me to hit cap and hard cap of expertise, then starting to build up mastery.
Currently I am using a setup that gets me to hit cap and hard cap of expertise, then starting to build up mastery.
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Re: AskMrRobot
Surprised nobody has chimed in here with their setup. Got a chance to really nail down what I find to be working really well for ensuring that priorities are good. By no means am I saying this is the final/end all be all but it seems to be a good setup for me so far. Would love to see what other people are doing.
Phys Hit - 1.0
Expertise - .8 Soft Cap Weight .43
Mastery - .65
Armor - .64
Haste - .41
Strenght - .4
Dodge - .35
Parry - .35
Stamina - .3
Phys Hit - 1.0
Expertise - .8 Soft Cap Weight .43
Mastery - .65
Armor - .64
Haste - .41
Strenght - .4
Dodge - .35
Parry - .35
Stamina - .3
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Re: AskMrRobot
Levantine wrote:One thing. There is no soft cap for expertise. Below 7.5 it reduces dodge, above and it reduces parry. There's no double dipping anymore below 7.5.
Bosses cannot parry from behind, so the soft cap is the one required by DPS staying behind, the hard cap instead is what you go for if you need to hit from anywhere.
Even in Cata dps simply ignored Parry.
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Re: AskMrRobot
These are the priorities for my tanking configuration not my dps configuration thus the reason for the push to hard cap.
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Volitaire wrote:These are the priorities for my tanking configuration not my dps configuration thus the reason for the push to hard cap.
I think they may have been trying to point out that a 'soft cap' weight doesn't make much sense. If you want to know you'll hit the boss from the front (i.e. as a tank), you need to be hard capped.
I myself haven't bothered with Ask Mr Robot since I'm still getting to raiding gear levels and so gear optimization is 'get better gear'
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Volitaire wrote:These are the priorities for my tanking configuration not my dps configuration thus the reason for the push to hard cap.
Expertise has the same value from 0% to 15% in the new design, so there is no soft cap.
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Re: AskMrRobot
Ahh, I see what you all mean. The way the weights fall it ends up prioritizing a hard cap before moving onto anything else. I mainly had it listed just because it is a value that has to be filled out.
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Re: AskMrRobot
I'll just leave this here:
http://forums.askmrrobot.com/index.php? ... 0#msg27990
http://forums.askmrrobot.com/index.php? ... 0#msg27990
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Re: AskMrRobot
Volitaire wrote:Ahh, I see what you all mean. The way the weights fall it ends up prioritizing a hard cap before moving onto anything else. I mainly had it listed just because it is a value that has to be filled out.
Pretty sure you can leave some of those values blank, as there are soft caps and such for haste on my priest, but they're blank, and it seems to work fine. I suppose the coding could be different for expertise, but I haven't really delved that far into it.
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Re: AskMrRobot
theckhd wrote:I'll just leave this here:
http://forums.askmrrobot.com/index.php? ... 0#msg27990
tested those weights,but mrRobot is still acting funny
I swapped mastery/haste,i still have plenty of pieces where it could have me reforge mastery but instead it reforges into haste (and it keeps doing it even with haste dropped from 0.9 to 0.7)




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Re: AskMrRobot
I had to set expertise to 3 and hard cap 5(!) to force it to give me 15% expertise instead of 14.something (talk about brute-force making things work).
Setting strength to 0.5 and mastery to 1.0 switched the bracer enchant to Mastery from Strength.
Setting strength to 0.5 and mastery to 1.0 switched the bracer enchant to Mastery from Strength.
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Re: AskMrRobot
Yeah, I've been seeing similar bugs (the STR error, as well as the weird reforging). I've reported it in that thread, but until yellow can figure out what's causing it, there's not much we can do. I'd just advise tweaking things manually to help the optimizer along.
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Re: AskMrRobot
This is what i'm seeing now



Reforging mastery into haste (going against the stat weight),bringing me under the exp hardcap (even with exp as third on the weight list)
It's even going as far as taking away my +hit cogwell from the dragonling to replace it with a haste one (so then it has to reforge for the hit-cap instead of going for exp or mastery,so basically i'm losing on 2 of the 4 top weights in favour of the fifth one)



Reforging mastery into haste (going against the stat weight),bringing me under the exp hardcap (even with exp as third on the weight list)
It's even going as far as taking away my +hit cogwell from the dragonling to replace it with a haste one (so then it has to reforge for the hit-cap instead of going for exp or mastery,so basically i'm losing on 2 of the 4 top weights in favour of the fifth one)




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Re: AskMrRobot
I tried throwing Theck's numbers on wowhead.
Looks like a legitimate list. The only weird thing is, without the filter for Crit/Intel/Agi, there are a couple of pieces that creep in the list.
It values Necklace of Imbued Fury above Saddlebinder Links, for example.
Looks like a legitimate list. The only weird thing is, without the filter for Crit/Intel/Agi, there are a couple of pieces that creep in the list.
It values Necklace of Imbued Fury above Saddlebinder Links, for example.
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