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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:08 pm

Is that your progression set? Very low health from where you should be. Silly page is in Italian and Chrome's auto-translate breaks the page. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Flex ... ro/1233895 is my Barb, currently in GF gear for Act 1 farming.

Good thing is with the weapon damage range tuning you should see a lot more high DPS weapons become available in the coming days/weeks which should help kill their huge asking price.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Gab » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:41 pm

Your AR and health are still a bit low but not by too much considering the 15% damage nerf.

Nothing sticks out as your worst piece, for the most part they are all equally mediocre. Try grabbing a helm with a socket and gem it with the biggest Amethyst you can afford. You might want to think about pieces that don't have strength if you can get really high Vit/AR plus armor and/or health% instead. Obviously Str/Vit/AR/X are the most desirable but that also means they carry a much higher price tag than stuff without strength. As Flex said weapon prices should see a significant drop in the near future so you could make up some of the lost DPS there.

And your spec. No Revenge? I haven't played since the WW buff but it can't be better than having Revenge?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:00 pm

One of the key points of the Whirlwind buils was crit rate+LoH+overpower with crushing advance. They removed reflected damage from crushing advance proccing LoH so it lost a lot of the survival.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:34 pm

Haven't been really paying attention to D3 lately... wtf are Paragon levels?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Passionario » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:47 am

Skye1013 wrote:Haven't been really paying attention to D3 lately... wtf are Paragon levels?

Level 60 characters can now gain XP in Inferno, and each stack of Nephalem Valor now gives +15% XP in addition to other benefits. That XP goes towards new "Paragon levels". Each Paragon level gives a slight boost to Str/Dex/Int/Vit, as well as 3% bonus to Magic Find and Gold Find.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby djlar » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:38 am

You only have to be level 60, not do Inferno, althoug inferno mobs give more XP and better chance of dropping better items..

You can go grind Hell act 3 at 60, get 5NVs and XP, yes, it's gonna take longer to get one paragon level and no chance of i63s dropping..

Last night I did full Act 3 inferno, dinged a couple of levels, still nothing good dropped.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:07 am

Gab wrote:Your AR and health are still a bit low but not by too much considering the 15% damage nerf.

Nothing sticks out as your worst piece, for the most part they are all equally mediocre. Try grabbing a helm with a socket and gem it with the biggest Amethyst you can afford. You might want to think about pieces that don't have strength if you can get really high Vit/AR plus armor and/or health% instead. Obviously Str/Vit/AR/X are the most desirable but that also means they carry a much higher price tag than stuff without strength. As Flex said weapon prices should see a significant drop in the near future so you could make up some of the lost DPS there.

And your spec. No Revenge? I haven't played since the WW buff but it can't be better than having Revenge?



I found revenge being quite lacksluter so far... mainly cause i just go from full to dead in a couple seconds, can't really hit it.
I mean how much phisical resist and armor am i supposed to have to not have a act 3 white mob hit me for 1/3 of my HP?

p.s. to change from italian to english just change "it" with "en" in the address of the page :P
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:26 am

Worldie wrote:I mean how much phisical resist and armor am i supposed to have to not have a act 3 white mob hit me for 1/3 of my HP?


My progression set has about 1K all resist with shout and over 11K Armor and over 40K health if you really want to know.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Gab » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:30 am

Worldie wrote:I found revenge being quite lacksluter so far... mainly cause i just go from full to dead in a couple seconds, can't really hit it.
I mean how much phisical resist and armor am i supposed to have to not have a act 3 white mob hit me for 1/3 of my HP?


Really not sure tbh. A bit has changed since I played my Barb (who only made it to Ghom) one of those things is that I sold all my gear...

I used a sword and board which definitely cuts down on the melee damage both through block and armor. Revenge was my bread and butter although I had a lot more health (~40-45k iirc) which gave Revenge heals more umph. Killing things took forever though and champ packs were impossible without WotB...

With mobs doing -15% damage I would imagine Revenge would be exponentially better than it was before 1.04.

I kind of want to pick the Barb back up with the new changes. Kind of sad that I sold all my gear, except for the Wizards MF gear, and gold. Although I was able to pay for MoP digital CE and a bunch of faction transfers so I guess it was worth it.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:42 am

Gab wrote:I kind of want to pick the Barb back up with the new changes.


It is a lot more fun because you're not so reliant on "just" Frenzy any more. Hammer of the Ancient really packs a punch now, the damage increase makes the utility trade off for Seismic Slam less hurtful overall and Rend is a straight up monster now, 14K ticks with my pre-1.04 2 hander. Plus they have the best combat physics in the game.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:53 am

Flex wrote:
Worldie wrote:I mean how much phisical resist and armor am i supposed to have to not have a act 3 white mob hit me for 1/3 of my HP?


My progression set has about 1K all resist with shout and over 11K Armor and over 40K health if you really want to know.


I wouldnt really know how to get 1k all resist. With the buff I'm about 700. I suppose I can use my shield which bumps me to 11k armor, but even with that I again got raped by the first white pack. Would changing all my Fire resist gear to Phisical resist gear help?
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:04 pm

All Resist > any form of elemental resist.

Do a search in the AH for Str/Vit/All Resistance with a buyout of like 50,000 there a lot of gear out there and sometimes you can find great surprise deals at odd price points.

Another alternative is to get a GF/MF set and farm the hell out of Acts 1 and 2. In my GF set I can pull in 400 to 500K from gold only in a partial Act 1 clear.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:13 pm

All my gear is Phis/Fire resist + all resist. I thought FR is nice to have cause else fire chain and fiery mobs are a pain, but I guess I aint going anywhere if i get 3shot by melee attacks.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby aureon » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:39 pm

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/m ... VgT!caccba
With proper (read: a Skorn and accessories) gear, it does over 5 million damage with SSS.
Not usable in single, but with some gear-switching into 10 spirit regen:
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:23 am

Finally knocked out Inferno on my Barb in a 4 person group.
Got the inferno pony staff made.
Did the opening quest chain to kill the Wretched Mother on my Witch Doctor and got a necklace that sold for 1.5 million, probably under sold it by a bunch.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Epimer » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:31 pm

Acid Rain feels bugged. It's doing a ridiculous amount of damage.

Nice to be destroying things in Act 3, though.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:33 pm

Epimer wrote:Acid Rain feels bugged. It's doing a ridiculous amount of damage.

Nice to be destroying things in Act 3, though.


Increased damage for it combined with much faster animation and the ability to cast them in quick succession is great. I think I can get two additional casts before the first animation finishes playing. Like I said earlier the best change to the WD, aside from pets, was speeding up combat animations.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Epimer » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:57 am

Is this what playing a non-WD character was like before 1.04? I'm having an excellent time, although I do wish I had a bit more in the way of defensive stats.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:29 pm

So uhm. I got to Ghom, killed Ghom. Packs till there weren't excessively hard and could kill most of them without dieing.

Then went outside the fortress and got raped. Am I again in need of even more resist? I'm running 1300 resist and 8500 armor with buff now >.<
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:35 pm

I had the same issue, but I kept at it and things started dying.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Passionario » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:29 pm

If all else fails, go deeply defensive. Elites and rares no longer have enrage timers or heal to full, so you can just slowly grind them down.

This approach, while being rather slow, allowed me to go from being stuck in that damned Act III tower to the Grandmaster achievement.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby djlar » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:49 am

I can demolish mobs and stand in fire/arcane/poison all day on Act 1 with barb, comes act 2, very first elite pack one-shots me... I think they increase the difficulty 10 fold instead of progressively doing it...

Yeah Act 3 after Ghom is insane, my DH gets one shotted by trash, while not dying before Ghom at all..
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:04 am

Since the patch I've gotten a Goldskin which I've used to create a 300% GF set for lazy farming Act 1 while watching Netflix. Earlier in the day I mentioned wanting to get one for a farm set and it dropped for me later that night.

I got a horribly rolled Lacuni Prowlers that I blew up because they disgusted me.

And I got a Bul-Kathos's Wedding Band that has a fairly nice life leach effect.

For any of the barbs having issues surviving be on the lookout for cheap Empyrean Messengers. They aren't the best weapons being a 1.2 APS spear but the post-1.04 ones roll with over 70 all resistance making them great for tanky builds. On the US side at least there are dozens around the 1 million gold price range.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Worldie » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:19 am

1 million gold? lol.

I never had more than 300k gold, takes me over a hour to get 100k gold I have no idea how people buy stuff for 100kk millions.
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Re: Diablo 3 is live!

Postby Flex » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:27 am

Worldie wrote:1 million gold? lol.

I never had more than 300k gold, takes me over a hour to get 100k gold I have no idea how people buy stuff for 100kk millions.


You don't farm gold in acts you're progressing on. You go back to Act 1 or Act 2 in some gold find gear and wreck faces. In moderate GF gear a clear of Act 1 from after the Skeleton King to the Butcher should net 400K+
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