MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby halabar » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:37 pm

Stop the presses...

So I did some testing for DPS with that trinket. Eh... Underwhelming. It may turn out to be better for tanks than for dps. If femaledwarf is correct, the trinket, even with 3 buffed cogwheels, still is WAY behind the LFR trinkets, and may even be behind our current 410 trinkets at lvl 90.

It may fair better at lower ranges (haven't compared against the other trinkets from questing or heroics) but it certainly won't be something you use at 90, for dps anyway.

That said, the trinket and the cogwheels are cheap to make, so the may see sales to folks wanting to boost their ilvls and those who have crap trinkets.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby Worldie » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:55 pm

A trinket with this kind of stats (green stats that's it) is generally unattractive to DPS compared to a STR / AGI / INT item.

I see that trinket mainly as a tanky stuff.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby superworm » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:18 am

halabar wrote:That said, the trinket and the cogwheels are cheap to make, so the may see sales to folks wanting to boost their ilvls and those who have crap trinkets.


I'm sure just because of this there will be a huge market. Most people level by quests and they usually do not have enough ilvs for heroic dungeons when they just hit 90. Also I think there will be profit for selling lv 78~80 cataclysm greens because of RAF/SoR fresh 80s. At least I myself will make use of RAF and get my monk to lv80 on launch by level granting, and I will definitely need some greens to get enough ilvs for dungeons.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby halabar » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:14 am

So.. the unanswered questions that makes a goblin's ear-hairs twitch...

Cauldrons: Will there be one? still haven't seen confirmation one way or the other.

Where do all those blue quality JC ring and neck patterns come from?

Will alchemy get anything else?

Where do those red blood whatever things listed in the tailoring patterns come from?

Will they fix the spawn rate of Trillium?

Apart from that sort of thing, I think we've seen everything we're gonna see for at least the first patch. Things will change, but I don't think in a huge way.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby Mannstein » Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:36 am

halabar wrote:
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I have a third that I haven't worked up professions on yet I am currently thinking Herb/Inscription


Inscription will be strong, a lot of markets to work with.


I think we will have a 100% more market in Inscription and 1000% more goblin competition... (This is Beta so the % can change :D )
i'm starting to think that i'll focus this time in JWC or even Alchemy, the number of persons that i know and are droping Alchemy for Inscription is absurd.

P.S. Every wannabe goblin that i know is going to "change to inscription to make money", which reminds me a bit of the Black Thursday.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby Volitaire » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:52 am

I am adding an inscriptionist but not dropping anything for one.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby halabar » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:21 am

Mannstein wrote:P.S. Every wannabe goblin that i know is going to "change to inscription to make money", which reminds me a bit of the Black Thursday.


Well, it certainly will be server dependent, but assuming you are right...

1) As Alchemy was the go-to in Cata, it was flooded with the wannabes, but, other than Truegold, it was still profitable.

2) I doubt the new Scribes will have the stomach to stay in DMC for long.

3) Sell herbs. :-)

Regarding JC, if you are going to be leveling your JCer, that would be a good way to go, as there are enough world-drop BOP and rep patterns that you'll be ahead of those with JCers as alts.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby halabar » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:22 am

Volitaire wrote:I am adding an inscriptionist but not dropping anything for one.


I may be dropping Alch for it on one toon, but then again I had 4 alchemists.. not sure I want to keep all just for Living Steel.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby Holyblaze » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:31 am

I have a lot of peeps that tell me they will be going as a Scribe this time round. I may be selling my herbs as both Alch & Scribe NEED them. I wont lvl my scribe as I am bankning on the masses to AH PvP until the shoulder chants are cheap and will goble them up early. Once LFR comes out they will spike again and I will unload them all at that point. GEMS will still be SICK once LFR comes out. Enchanting...do we really have to talk about the print gold aspect of this one? I mistakenly showed my GM some tricks and now I have to beat her down and still make good margins. haha I keept telling her that farming then crafting was not the best way as those are not free to her in the end.

hehe Getting so amped about MoP just for the new fun on the AH! haha DAMN IT ALL!!!!!!!
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby bldavis » Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:41 pm

i will be adding another alch, but that will be my monk on my alliance server
other then that, i will be keeping the same proffessions i have had
that and leveling my druid second will give me flying herbing, now to just train my sister or mom on how to pick herbs for me :twisted:
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby rodos » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:50 pm

Holyblaze wrote:Enchanting...do we really have to talk about the print gold aspect of this one?

Recently got into the enchanting biz. Me likey :)

It doesn't have the insane inventory requirements of JC or Inscription, and it has some fun niches to work with (i.e. various old enchants). Having a JC and BS available means I can create all the Cata-level dust, essences and shards I need - sometimes at half the market rate. If only there were a way to cost-effectively craft Small Radiant and Large Brilliant shards. I think I need to do an experiment on the g/hr effectiveness of running BG for Honor to buy lowbie blues. Also considering blowing up some of the backlog of BoE blues that I have from Thunderfury/Sulfuras farm runs. They can sell for quite a bit more than a shard, but very slowly and the deposit costs are pretty high.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby halabar » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:55 pm

rodos wrote:
Holyblaze wrote:Enchanting...do we really have to talk about the print gold aspect of this one?

Recently got into the enchanting biz. Me likey :)


I need to try in ally-side on my server, during Cata it sucked on horde side, not enough demand and too many old timers with it.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby Holyblaze » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:48 pm

rodos wrote:
Holyblaze wrote:Enchanting...do we really have to talk about the print gold aspect of this one?

Recently got into the enchanting biz. Me likey :)

It doesn't have the insane inventory requirements of JC or Inscription, and it has some fun niches to work with (i.e. various old enchants). Having a JC and BS available means I can create all the Cata-level dust, essences and shards I need - sometimes at half the market rate. If only there were a way to cost-effectively craft Small Radiant and Large Brilliant shards. I think I need to do an experiment on the g/hr effectiveness of running BG for Honor to buy lowbie blues. Also considering blowing up some of the backlog of BoE blues that I have from Thunderfury/Sulfuras farm runs. They can sell for quite a bit more than a shard, but very slowly and the deposit costs are pretty high.


Yeah man...Tmog can sell for HUGE margins, but relisting can be a pain as there is no real high demand for any one item as its based on pure astetics. For instnace, I just droped 6k on a full Blood set for my DK. haha super low lvl greens, but VERY rare to find the full set. While that was just AH prices, I know that I would not have tried to farm them up myself. Time = gold baby! :D
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby Zalaria » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:14 am

halabar wrote:Where do all those blue quality JC ring and neck patterns come from?


I can only answer this one out of the list but they're on the trainer in Jade Forest, along with all the Serpent's Eye patterns (small town just north of Dawn's Blossom). They're not purchased with any special tokens or anything, just standard trainer style.
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Re: MoP Goblin profiteering theorycrafting

Postby halabar » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:45 am

Time to make some gold...

What we will have next week:

New talents, and new glyphs, so gold to be made there selling glyphs.

Pet battles, and sellable caged pets. All kinds of possibilities here.

Changes to relic/ranged/etc slots, so potential to make gold selling weapons, wands, and other gear.

What we won't have...

New ore, gems, fish, and other mats. (unless Blizz missed something, hint, check drops on the DMF island)
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