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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby lythac » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:48 am

Sabindeus wrote:also known as "Betribution"


When I saw this a few days ago I read it as a "Beta Retribution Paladin so it changes all the time, with tweaks, bugs etc."

Now I see what it is.
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Mannstein » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:53 am

lythac wrote:
Sabindeus wrote:also known as "Betribution"


When I saw this a few days ago I read it as a "Beta Retribution Paladin so it changes all the time, with tweaks, bugs etc."

Now I see what it is.


Ok, didn't get it :(
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Worldie » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:17 am

"Bet"ribution I believe.
theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby theckhd » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:24 am

At least they haven't brought back Seal of Casino.
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:11 pm

theckhd wrote:At least they haven't brought back Seal of Casino.

I imagine that's a joke based on the RNG of a particular seal... but I can't figure out which it might be (since I didn't really get into playing a pally til WotLK even though he was started back in TBC.)
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby lythac » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:31 pm

Skye1013 wrote:
theckhd wrote:At least they haven't brought back Seal of Casino.

I imagine that's a joke based on the RNG of a particular seal... but I can't figure out which it might be (since I didn't really get into playing a pally til WotLK even though he was started back in TBC.)


Seal of Command. Was the Alliance ret paladins seal of choice. Horde used Seal of Blood which was higher DPS -.-

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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby theckhd » Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:48 pm

Seal of Command in Vanilla/BC was a high-damage random proc from melee attacks. And itself. Vanilla Ret PvP was sort of funny, because you had lots of burst if you got chain-procs, you just had no control over when you got those bursts.

Hence the nickname, "Seal of Casino"
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:50 pm

Ah, I just remember hearing about "reckoning bombs" and whatever the shaman equiv was. I knew of SoC/SoB, but hadn't really used them (was mid-50s I think when LK came out, and had only been using Light/Wisdom up until that point for questing in areas beyond my level.) Oh... and I was Prot...
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby theckhd » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:33 am

By the time you leveled, SoCommand may have already been redesigned into "Seal of Cleave."

I was disappointed that they made Seal of Righteousness into SoCleave in MoP. I'd rather see Righteousness be the base one that gets replaced, and Command be the SoCleave, just for historical reasons.
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Mannstein » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:00 am

theckhd wrote:Seal of Command in Vanilla/BC was a high-damage random proc from melee attacks. And itself. Vanilla Ret PvP was sort of funny, because you had lots of burst if you got chain-procs, you just had no control over when you got those bursts.

Hence the nickname, "Seal of Casino"


Seal of Command did more damage that Seal of blood and was auto-critical if the oponent was stunned or incapacitaded but was random.
The only time i remember it fondly was when i Repentance a ally resto druid then closed in and melle crit + command crit = 1shot.
This gave us the bad reputation back then, because if you were stuned and the Paly was lucky you where 1shoted.

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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Worldie » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:00 am

Judgement of command was autocrit, not seal of command.
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Holyblaze » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:41 pm

theckhd wrote:At least they haven't brought back Seal of Casino.



I LOVED Seal of Casino! haha when you hit the jackpot...BAM!
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby stevos » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:53 am

What am i missing, EJ has 5 holypower TV as top attack and 3 holy power TV as bottom.
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Nooska » Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:57 am

Thats because HP generation is more important than HP spending, so you only throw out a 3HP TV if you haven't got any HP generators to use (which is, iirc, all the other attacks for ret nowadays?)
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Re: Beta Retribution

Postby Worldie » Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:12 am

Exo Judge and CS/HotR are generators for Ret.

Any link for the EJ post where there's the priority for MoP ? I suck at searching...
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