5.0.4 PTR

[bldavis]

This thread is for the discussion of Mists of Pandaria Pre-Patch 5.0.4

i have copied over my hunter, warrior, druid, and paladin
if there is anything you would like tested, let me know ill do what i can

I am on the Broxigar Server if anyone would like to join me

[stevos]

Main interest is to know which fights are easier/harder in Dragonsoul Heroic

I am guessing with placeable concre and unlimited mana, spine will be dead easy to tank. However no block capping might make damage very spikey.

[daishan]

Tanking spine might be easy, but dispelling the de-buff on heroic with the dispel cd O.o

[bldavis]

Main interest is to know which fights are easier/harder in Dragonsoul Heroic

I am guessing with placeable concre and unlimited mana, spine will be dead easy to tank. However no block capping might make damage very spikey.

well i can say i will most likely NOT be raiding except maybe LFR
mechanics wise, feel compared to live and stuff like that i can test

as a note, i have a jc, scribe, LW, and enchanter as far as proffesions if you want any info from them

[PsiVen]

The new ShoR mechanic will trivialize Morchok's Stomp (lol) and Madness' Impale, for one.

Spine Heroic debuff will probably be straight-up removed (See Illidan's Shear in 3.0) and the fight nerfed even harder to compensate the missing buff.

It's also worth noting that for last expansion, the 4.0 patch was the one that removed 100% mount drop rates, not the new expansion launch itself. It's not clear whether that will happen on the same timetable this time around (or at all).

[stevos]

The new ShoR mechanic will trivialize Morchok's Stomp (lol)

What he has a stump? You sure

I hadn't thought about the debuff on spine, yeah that might be one hell of a mistake if bliz hasn't thought about it.

I suspect Mr Blob will be super easy with 0 cd WoG, not that his overly hard

I am wondering how frenzy attack will work with the SoTR buff, since its currently not blockable.

[Worldie]

SotR buff is flat damage reduction so it will reduce Hagara's focused assault (if that's the one you refer to).

[stevos]

50%+ damage reduction that you can get by going with some mastery trinkets, will make Hagara's attack seem like she is slapping you rather than punching.

That can still get a little dicey on live, if one of the two healers are iceblocked

I wonder if you can get a similar level of dmg reduction on the impales on Madness, that would certainly make the fight a whole lot easier from a CD perspective.

[Darielle]

You have ~60% without even trying, between Mastery from the gear we've been using and the Mastery raid buff.
Spine won't be nearly as bad because dps classes are going to be nuts. It'll also be 35% by then so 1-lift will be pretty much the norm.

And yes, it'll work on Madness.

[Worldie]

I don't think the nerf will go further than 30%. ICC buff was only up to 30%.

[Darielle]

35% is in the game files. Blizzard has shown absolutely zero real indication that they won't nerf it as far as they can.

[stevos]

We are at least 2months from mists. 35% could easily only be the start.

[Newsom]

35% is in the game files. Blizzard has shown absolutely zero real indication that they won't nerf it as far as they can.

ICC also had 35% in the game files IIRC.

[Darielle]

ICC also had 35% in the game files IIRC.

Not from any memory I have of the time, it didn't. It was set to 30%, and the incrementation automated.

[theckhd]

ICC also had 35% in the game files IIRC.

Not from any memory I have of the time, it didn't. It was set to 30%, and the incrementation automated.

I don't think the ICC buff ever had an incarnation above 30%, even in the game files. I remember that difference being discussed when the 35% version of the DS debuff was datamined.