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[Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP)

Postby lythac » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:01 am

[Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP)

Introduction

Gear updated 2nd April

A few items are on mop.wowhead, these are ones suitable for Prot Paladins.

Gear is listed by slot then ilvl.

At this early stage, sources aren't being placed.

I hope to have the list fully updated and populated one week prior to launch.

Item Restrictions

Items are MoP only

Items must have Strength at least one of Mastery, Dodge or Parry and no Haste or Crit. Due to this items with both Hit and Expertise will feature for the time being.

Trinkets still to come.
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Postby lythac » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:01 am

Gear updated 2nd April

Head

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scarlet Monastery - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Helm ( parry hit )
[457] Reinforced Retinal Armor ( )
[419] Korjan Helm ( mastery parry )
[419] Thunderfoot Heavy Helm ( dodge hit )
[414] Summit Guardian Helm ( dodge hit )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Helm ( dodge hit )
[384] Thunderwood Helm ( dodge parry )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Helm ( mastery parry )
[372] Scavenger's Armored Helm ( mastery hit )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Helm ( mastery dodge )

Neck

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scarlet Halls - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Str Tank Necklace 2 ( mastery parry )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scholomance - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Str Tank Necklace ( dodge expertise )
[414] Brewdrinker Pendant ( mastery dodge )
[399] Amulet of the Singing Marshes ( dodge parry )
[399] Red Crane Pendant ( dodge parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Pendant ( mastery dodge )
[384] Greenstone Pendant ( mastery dodge )
[372] Faded Forest Pendant ( mastery dodge )
[372] Scavenger's Pendant ( mastery dodge )

Shoulder

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scholomance - Boss 5 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Shoulder ( parry hit )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Siege of Niuzao Temple - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Shoulder ( dodge parry )
[414] Summit Guardian Shoulders ( mastery dodge )
[404] Thunderwood Shoulders ( mastery hit )
[399] Korjan Shoulders ( parry hit )
[399] Thunderfoot Heavy Shoulders ( dodge parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Shoulders ( mastery dodge )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Shoulders ( dodge hit )
[372] Scavenger's Armored Shoulders ( mastery expertise )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Shoulders ( dodge hit )

Cloak

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scarlet Monastery - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Str Tank Cloak ( dodge parry )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scholomance - Boss 3 Loot 1 - Str Tank Cloak ( dodge hit )
[414] Snow Boulder Manteau ( mastery parry )
[399] Greenback Cape ( mastery dodge )
[399] Toraji Cloak ( mastery dodge )
[393] Mountainscaler Manteau ( mastery parry )
[384] Veridian Cape ( mastery parry )
[372] Faded Forest Manteau ( mastery dodge )
[372] Scavenger's Manteau ( parry expertise )

Chest

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scarlet Halls - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Chest ( dodge parry )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scholomance - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Chest ( parry expertise )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Plate Str Melee Chest ( mastery expertise )
[419] Dojani Chestpiece ( mastery hit )
[419] Korjan Chestpiece ( mastery dodge )
[419] Thunderfoot Heavy Chestpiece ( dodge parry )
[414] Summit Guardian Chestpiece ( mastery parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Chestpiece ( mastery parry )
[384] Thunderwood Chestpiece ( mastery parry )
[372] Faded Forest Armored Chestpiece ( mastery hit )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Chestpiece ( mastery dodge )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Chestpiece ( mastery parry )

Belt

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scarlet Monastery - Boss 3 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Belt ( dodge expertise )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Belt ( dodge parry )
[450] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Belt ( dodge parry )
[414] Summit Guardian Girdle ( parry hit )
[399] Korjan Girdle ( dodge parry )
[399] Thunderfoot Heavy Girdle ( mastery parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Girdle ( parry hit )
[384] Thunderwood Girdle ( mastery dodge )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Girdle ( dodge parry )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Girdle ( dodge expertise )

Legs

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Siege of Niuzao Temple - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Legs ( dodge parry )
[434] Summit Guardian Legguards ( parry )
[399] Korjan Legguards ( dodge parry )
[399] Thunderfoot Heavy Legguards ( mastery parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Legguards ( parry )
[384] Thunderwood Legguards ( mastery dodge )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Legguards ( dodge parry )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Legguards ( expertise hit )

Feet

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scholomance - Boss 3 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Boot ( mastery parry )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Temple of the Jade Serpent - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Boot ( dodge hit )
[425] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Temple of the Jade Serpent - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Boot ( dodge hit )
[414] Summit Guardian Warboots ( mastery dodge )
[399] Korjan Warboots ( mastery hit )
[399] Thunderfoot Heavy Warboots ( dodge parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Warboots ( mastery dodge )
[384] Thunderwood Warboots ( parry hit )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Warboots ( mastery hit )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Warboots ( mastery parry )

Bracer

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Gate of the Setting Sun - Boss 3 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Bracer ( dodge expertise )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Stormstout Brewery - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Bracer ( dodge parry )
[434] Summit Guardian Armplates ( dodge parry )
[425] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Stormstout Brewery - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Bracer ( dodge parry )
[399] Korjan Armplates ( mastery dodge )
[399] Thunderfoot Heavy Armplates ( mastery hit )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Armplates ( dodge parry )
[384] Thunderwood Armplates ( dodge parry )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Armplates ( mastery dodge )
[372] Scavenger's Armored Bracers ( mastery hit )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Armplates ( mastery parry )

Hands

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Gate of the Setting Sun - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Plate Str Melee Glove ( mastery hit )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Palace of the Heavens - Boss 3 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Glove ( parry hit )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Glove ( mastery dodge )
[450] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Gate of the Setting Sun - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Plate Str Melee Glove ( mastery hit )
[450] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Plate Str Tank Glove ( mastery dodge )
[434] Summit Guardian Gauntlets ( mastery dodge )
[434] Wallwatcher Gauntlets ( mastery hit )
[399] Korjan Gauntlets ( parry hit )
[399] Thunderfoot Heavy Gauntlets ( mastery dodge )
[393] Mountainscaler Armored Gauntlets ( mastery hit )
[393] Mountainscaler Heavy Gauntlets ( mastery dodge )
[384] Thunderwood Gauntlets ( dodge hit )
[372] Faded Forest Heavy Gauntlets ( parry hit )
[372] Scavenger's Armored Gauntlets ( mastery hit )
[372] Scavenger's Heavy Gauntlets ( mastery hit )

Ring

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Stormstout Brewery - Boss 3 Loot 1 - STR Tank Ring 2 ( mastery parry )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Temple of the Jade Serpent - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Str Tank Ring ( dodge hit )
[419] Shimmerback Band ( mastery dodge )
[419] Verdant Band ( mastery expertise )
[419] Zhu Signet ( mastery dodge )
[414] Blue Mountain Signet ( dodge )
[414] Sunglimmer Signet ( mastery dodge )
[399] Band of the Fruited Fields ( mastery parry )
[399] Seal of the Southern Wall ( dodge parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Signet ( dodge )
[384] Ring of Restoration ( mastery dodge )
[384] Spirebound Band ( dodge parry )
[372] Faded Forest Signet ( mastery dodge )
[372] Scavenger's Signet ( dodge parry )

Trinket

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Palace of the Heavens - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Tank Trinket ( )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Scholomance - Boss 5 Loot 1 - Str DPS Trinket ( )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 2 Loot 1 - Tank Trinket ( )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Stormstout Brewery - Boss 3 Loot 1 - STR DPS Trinket ( )

Weapon

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Stormstout Brewery - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Str Hybrid Sword1H ( mastery expertise )
[425] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Stormstout Brewery - Boss 1 Loot 1 - Str Hybrid Sword1H ( mastery expertise )
[414] Kun-Lai Summit Battlehammer ( mastery parry )
[404] Jade Forest Battlehammer ( mastery dodge )
[399] Four Winds Battlehammer ( parry expertise )
[399] Krasarang Battlehammer ( dodge parry )
[393] Mountainscaler Battlehammer ( mastery parry )
[372] Faded Forest Battlehammer ( dodge parry )
[372] Scavenger's Battlehammer ( dodge parry )

Shield

[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Gate of the Setting Sun - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Str Tank Shield ( parry hit )
[463] 5.0 Dungeon - Heroic - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Str Tank Shield ( dodge parry )
[450] 5.0 Dungeon - Levelup - Shado-Pan Monastery - Boss 4 Loot 1 - Str Tank Shield ( dodge parry )
[414] Kun-Lai Summit Barrier ( mastery expertise )
[404] Jade Forest Barrier ( mastery parry )
[399] Four Winds Barrier ( dodge expertise )
[399] Krasarang Barrier ( mastery dodge )
[393] Mountainscaler Barrier ( mastery expertise )
[372] Faded Forest Barrier ( mastery dodge )
[372] Scavenger's Barrier ( dodge parry )
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby lythac » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:03 am

I was bored, unlikely to have beta access - can't do any dummy stuff.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby degre » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:11 am

Isn't mastery going to suffer from diminished return in MoP? Because if this was the case we probably won't be interested any longer in mastery/dps items, as due to the new mechanics a parry/hit would be way more juicy even in simple terms of survival than mastery/crit.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby lythac » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:35 am

I think Mastery is due to either suffer from diminishing returns the same way parry/dodge do now or a 2-roll system for a boss swing is incoming which devalues it the more avoidance you have. Either way it won't be as good as it has been in Cata. In terms of useful gear for MoP I am looking at Mastery=Dodge=Parry instead of Cata's Mastery>Dodge=Parry.

So yeah a Parry/Hit would be way more attractive than Mastery/Crit, but reforged a Mastery/Crit won't be entirely useless, same for PvP items now that have Mastery (see helm) with the added joy that the wasted stat can be reforged where as Resilience cannot.

Depending on how highly we value sta and mastery a Mastery/Reforgeable Stat item can pull level with a Dodge/Parry item if it is 7-13 ilvls higher. Also sockets.

Some Mastery/Crit items might also end up being failsafe items.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby KysenMurrin » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:48 am

Either? They told us they've done both. It's a second roll and on diminishing returns.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby bldavis » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:55 am

pvp items in mop wont have non reforgable resil anymore thankfully
the pvp power/defense are budget-free stats so pvp gear could be viable alternative if you are having crap luck

i am curious to see how stat weights come out for tankadins (as well as the other tank classes)
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby lythac » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:09 am

Hadn't realised Mastery was getting both DR and swings were going to a 2 hit system.

As for PvP items, if crafted PvE items come out for every tier I doubt PvP items would of any interest to us as would be a tier (or two?) lower.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby Taikishi » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:26 am

My understanding is it's not mastery that's getting DR, it's block. Granted, for us, there's no difference, but there's a slight difference for warriors (critical block) and it means every other spec gets their full value from mastery.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby Beaug » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:59 pm

Leveling through The Jade Forest as Prot, here's the gear I have acquired. (Updated for all quests in the area.)

Head
[384] Thunderwood Helm Dodge Parry

Neck
[384] Greenstone Pendant Mastery Dodge

Shoulder
[404] Thunderwood Shoulders Mastery Hit

Chest
[384] Thunderwood Chestpiece Mastery Parry

Belt
[384] Thunderwood Girdle Dodge Mastery

Legs
[384] Thunderwood Legguards Mastery Dodge

Feet
[384] Thunderwood Warboots Parry Hit

Bracer
[384] Thunderwood Armplates Dodge Parry

Hands
[384] Thunderwood Gauntlets Dodge Hit

Ring
[384] Ring of Restoration Dodge Mastery
[384] Spirebound Band Dodge Parry

Shield
[404] Jade Forest Barrier Parry Mastery

Cloak
[384] Veridian Cape Mastery Parry

Weapon
[404] Jade Forest Battlehammer Dodge Mastery

Trinket
[384] Flamelager Medallion Dodge Parry Proc
[384] Shoots of Life Parry Mastery Proc
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby econ21 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:03 am

Is weapon damage on all weapons (including pre-MoP ones) being increased? Or is something strange happening so that MoP weapons have exceptional high damage for their ilevel?

The 372 green quest reward 1Her:

http://www.wowdb.com/items/80979-scaven ... ttlehammer

has more damage than heroic Gurthalak on live.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby lythac » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:11 am

Weapon damage is nearly doubling on all weapons including pre-mop ones. The old items have been updated on mop.wowhead.

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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby lythac » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:10 am

Bitter (player), wow forums wrote:Currently watching some streams while my beta installs, and I'm seeing that items that are being rewarded at the end of quests are specialization specific. I love the idea of this; however, there are some people who will not level as a healer thus they are losing out on healing gear. I was wondering if you could change it so the options are class-specific loot where we have the choice to choose specialization specific or one of the other pieces.

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-- Several of the zones have vendors with decent gear that isn't quite at the quest item level. These help provide coverage if you miss a reward, say gloves or shoulders, since questing is less linear now. However, these vendors also help you gather off-spec gear.

-- Several quests, especially those that offer blue rewards, weapons, trinkets and most of the level 90 quests, offer you a choice of gear for all of your specs instead of just your current spec.

-- Because the questing in zones isn't as linear as Cataclysm, and because there are two zones per level in some cases, you'll have the option to hit some quests as spec A and some quests as spec B.

-- There are still other sources of gear, such as crafting, the AH, dungeons, faction rep and so on.

Also remember that if, for example, you level as Arms but want to tank a few dungeons as Protection, that the level-up dungeons are not so brutally difficult that you need full tanking gear. A Prot warriors in DPS Strength gear would do just fine. As you get into endgame content, especially normal raids, you'll want actual tanking gear.


lythac wrote:Some Mastery/Crit items might also end up being failsafe items.


Think I will go through and update the list without Mastery/Crit and Mastery/Haste gear pieces based on the bolded information above.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby Flex » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:39 am

econ21 wrote:Is weapon damage on all weapons (including pre-MoP ones) being increased? Or is something strange happening so that MoP weapons have exceptional high damage for their ilevel?

The 372 green quest reward 1Her:

http://www.wowdb.com/items/80979-scaven ... ttlehammer

has more damage than heroic Gurthalak on live.


Most weapon strikes have been reduced by half weapon damage, what on live is 100% damage weapon strike is a 50% weapon damage on beta. This is to neuter player power at low levels. The weapon DPS upgrade is a gentle curve going all the way back to low levels, a vanilla blue was like .1 DPS more and a TBC 5 man purple was 8 DPS more or so, until at 85 where it is exactly 2x what it is on live.
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Re: [Prot Paladin] PvE Gear List (MoP) 27/03

Postby KysenMurrin » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:19 am

Probably a stupid question, but have they reduced the attack power contribution to auto attack damage to compensate (to prevent auto attack becoming 60-80% of melee dps)? I would worry the change would overvalue weapon dps for melee classes.
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