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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Aubade » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:27 am

Lightbeard wrote:
Fivelives wrote:If you don't have a blender, you could try using a (small) whisk or a fork. I've never mixed mine without a blender, personally, so I wouldn't know - but it stands to reason that you'd get some clumps that would be hard to break up by shaking.


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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Dapaladin » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:35 am

I use a shaker bottle. They are really cheap and really effective. Not sure if thats what you meant by blender or you actually meant a motorized blender. I'd recommend just getting a like $5 shaker bottle.

I use this http://www.blenderbottle.com/classic
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Lightbeard » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:34 pm

Dapaladin wrote:I use a shaker bottle. They are really cheap and really effective. Not sure if thats what you meant by blender or you actually meant a motorized blender. I'd recommend just getting a like $5 shaker bottle.

I use this http://www.blenderbottle.com/classic


I'm using a Blender Bottle already
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Nikachelle » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Going running for the first time today after work since the back problems cropped up. Fingers crossed I'm not a cripple tomorrow morning.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Dapaladin » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:39 pm

On a different note. Has anyone ever read or heard of the book "4-hour body" by Timothy Ferris? My Weight lifting professor has done the "Slow Carb Diet" in the book and it's supposedly really effective. Essentially it's you eat whatever as long as it's glycemic index is low. This prevents spikes in blood sugar which would normally cause the release on insulin which trigger fat production. In essence you eat anything that doesn't contain a lot of sugar or something that digests quickly into glucose. You eat a lot of legumes lean protein and vegtables. No bread, pasta,or potatoes. Anything that CAN be white is off-limits. So no whole wheat pasta or bread. Also no fruit or milk. While milks glycemix index is low it has a high insulin index which means it has the same response as if your blood sugar where to spike.

One day a week you get to have a day where you can eat whatever you want in whatever quantities. In fact you pretty much need to eat stuff you aren't allowed to eat the other 6 days or your body starts to do stuff(i know very specific and scientific) it shouldn't. Eat fruit and simple carbs till your hearts content.

I don't endorse this or anything but it makes a lot of sense as to why it would work. I started this diet today we will see how it goes!
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Dapaladin » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:41 pm

Lightbeard wrote:
Dapaladin wrote:I use a shaker bottle. They are really cheap and really effective. Not sure if thats what you meant by blender or you actually meant a motorized blender. I'd recommend just getting a like $5 shaker bottle.

I use this http://www.blenderbottle.com/classic


I'm using a Blender Bottle already


Oh hmm strange... I normally mix mine in water though.

I use Optimum Nutrition powder and don't have issues
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Lightbeard » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:54 am

I'm actually about to try switching to water.

I'm not lactose intolerant but I think mixing them with milk is tearing up my stomach.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:57 am

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "glycemic index" thing. People have been rating different foods on how healthy they are for you for a long, long time now - this just seems unnecessary and an attempt at fixing what isn't broken.

I also don't think any "diet" (and I use the word in quotes, because as long as you think of it as a "diet" rather than a "lifestyle" then it's doomed to fail) that gives you a "cheat day" is worth a rat's ass. Moderate your lifestyle, not your "diet". If you just pay attention to your body, it will tell you what you need and how much. The problem is that we've spent most of our lives (since we were infants anyway) learning to ignore what our bodies tell us, and it's ingrained. This "diet" sounds like it's propagating that mistake, and telling us to ignore our bodies for 6 days of the week; or, 86% of our lives. That's not healthy.

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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Dapaladin » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:12 am

The only reason i call it a "diet" is because thats what most people would refer to it as. I'm on the same boat with you in agreeing it's a lifestyle change.

I don't agree with listening to our body because our body is designed to want to take in as much food as possible. Our design is to prevent starvation not prevent getting fat. We are designed to be foragers and hunters and thus not have food readily available at all times(think cavemen). Also you have no caloric restrictions or anything. Eat as much as you want as long as it's a legume a lean protein or a vegetable. From eating these 3 things you can get all the nutrients you need.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:38 pm

Your body will tell you when you're full, and you can judge how near/far you are from being full. That's the sign we ignore most often, partially because of portion sizes, but mostly because we were just raised that way. I know I was told "You'd better eat everything on your plate, or else!" when I was growing up.

The trick is learning how full you need to be to have enough energy without constant hunger pangs. My target is about 3/4 of the way there - that gives me all the energy I need, without hunger pangs and without the feeling of lethargy you get from overeating. Of course, I do eat well balanced meals and I keep track of them to ensure that I'm not missing anything I absolutely need, but even if I do come up short in some essential nutrient, I can generally tell by what I start to crave.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:07 am

Part of the "feeling full" problem is that people eat so fast their body doesn't have time to register, so they generally overeat. Then by the time their brain catches up to the fact they're full, they've already had more food than they need, which can cause them to feel bloated/fat/"stuffed"/etc.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:37 am

Chew slower.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Skye1013 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:55 am

Not saying it isn't a fixable thing, just that's generally why people "ignore" their body telling them they're full... because it hasn't registered due to fast eating.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fridmarr » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:37 am

Realistically, our bodies are pretty bad communicators, particularly in the area of diet where it mostly uses an outdated model that doesn't expect us to have access to all the food you could possibly eat 24X7. Sometimes you just have to train yourself to override what your body is saying, like knowing that when your body says it's 75% full, that really means 100% full.

Sometimes you need to train your body, eating healthy meals will have you craving healthy foods, unfortunately the opposite is also true, so eating poorly can often cause you to crave more poor foods. Foods high in fiber, protein, and fat will give you a full feeling longer, but that latter category has twice the calories of the former. Sugars and carbs go don't tend to leave you satisified for long, but due to their high energy, often the body will release "good feeling" hormones when you eat them.

It can take some work, but if you focus on eating good foods, and also make those good food choices fairly convenient, then before you know it that's really what you'll be most interested in and your health will improve. At that point, you've made a lifestyle change, which is really what is needed instead of "dieting", for long term success.
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Re: Fitness and being Healthy

Postby Fivelives » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:51 am

Our bodies aren't really all that bad at communicating with us, we're just absolutely HORRIBLE at deciphering what they're saying*. It's kinda like if you walk through the bank's drive-through teller area, and try to let the teller know what you want without using the vacuum tube or the intercom. Unless you both speak sign language, nothing's going to get accomplished.

* We've been trained to ignore what our bodies tell us. In some cases (pushing through the pain a little bit) this is a good thing, but in most cases it isn't (cleaning your plate because of starving kids in Africa).
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