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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby poptart » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:02 am

Skye1013 wrote:I get bored enough leveling through questing as is... I don't know that I could handle doing it without dungeons/pvp to break up the monotony.


Well, I have to admit, I have only leveled one toon since Cata started and it was a Prot Warrior where I did the first 15 levels via the Goblin starting zone/new Ashaza and have done only about 50 non-instance quests since then (all in HFP/Zangermarsh/Terrokar Forest for TBC gear).

I am sort of excited to see some of the new Cata zones and their revamped quest hubs for the first 60 levels, honestly.

Ugh, money for upscaled cloth for the best Bandages possible is going to be an issue with zero professions and zero cash transfer from existing toons. And money for riding but that should not be much of an issue.

Ugh, I guess I cannot use any of the gifted account-wide mounts either. Gotta buy that flying mount instead of using the Pegasus.

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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby poptart » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:03 am

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poptart wrote:All good suggestions.

Hunter it is and Bloodarrows is born, the Orc Hunter (because Orc is the only race that I don't have yet as a high level character. Well, besides Panda! :) ).

Good call on the mana issue. I was pretty much narrowing down to Hunter or Rogue for that reason but I think keepting things at range and having a tank helped with the decision.


You get a bonus to pet damage with the Orc, which will work well for this. Read the rules, make sure you can use that racial cooldown.


Pretty sure you can use racial CDs/abilities. And class learned abilities but that is it.

I am SO glad that you no longer have to purchase each rank of your abilities and they scale automatically. That would suck the gold out of this project for sure.

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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Shoju » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:08 am

My reasoning for going with a shaman is that they carry a shield, and have heals, which could in an emergency save your life... maybe.

I tried to do something like this with some friends at the end of WotLK. We were doing "naked" toons. I tried to do a warrior tank wearing all whites and greys. I hated it.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Chicken » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:44 pm

Downside to the Shaman is the mana in my eyes. Your heals and your damage both draw from the same resource, and you don't get it replenishing through your melee attacks by being Enhancement, or a larger pool size from gear due to the rules of that challenge. It's still a fairly good class for it, but hunter still seems best.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Flex » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:03 pm

Chicken wrote:Downside to the Shaman is the mana in my eyes. Your heals and your damage both draw from the same resource, and you don't get it replenishing through your melee attacks by being Enhancement, or a larger pool size from gear due to the rules of that challenge. It's still a fairly good class for it, but hunter still seems best.


If you can make it to level 32 as a Paladin you're set. Train Seal of Insight and you should really never die. Plus you start out with Crusader Strike and get Word of Glory at level 9.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Kelaan » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:54 pm

I'd almost even say that holy paladin, since you can heal yourself nearly nonstop if you wanted to, might work better than the others... but I don't know how well the mana pool would hold up compared to, say, ret.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Skye1013 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:19 am

Kelaan wrote:I'd almost even say that holy paladin, since you can heal yourself nearly nonstop if you wanted to, might work better than the others... but I don't know how well the mana pool would hold up compared to, say, ret.

No talents; meaning you're effectively all three specs, and none of them at the same time.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby poptart » Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:24 am

Skye1013 wrote:
Kelaan wrote:I'd almost even say that holy paladin, since you can heal yourself nearly nonstop if you wanted to, might work better than the others... but I don't know how well the mana pool would hold up compared to, say, ret.

No talents; meaning you're effectively all three specs, and none of them at the same time.


Yeah, that is the "sticking point" IMO for taking any of the hybrid classes; their abilites are really geared off of making that level 10 specialization choice. A pure DPS class is, I think, much less dependant on that choice to make or break their play ability.

Got to level 9 on the Hunter and am just now beginning to feel the difference just a bit. Up until now, quest rewards awarded white gear so was good. I am now getting to the point where the only purpose of a quest reward is to get the one that sells for the most gold to sell it since they are all beginning to be green with stats on them.

This is going to be interesting. I need to research as to how often and at what levels Blizzard put in new, vendor purchsed "white" gear sets and plan to have the cash to purchase them; especially ranged weapons.

Heh, I already had one high level toon "helpfully" inform me that green gear was better than white gear.....heh.....

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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby halabar » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:13 am

poptart wrote:Up until now, quest rewards awarded white gear so was good.


That might be the other thing.. Which classes have the best white gear available to them? You might actually buy some of that white gear that some vendor sell, lol
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby poptart » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:15 am

halabar wrote:
poptart wrote:Up until now, quest rewards awarded white gear so was good.


That might be the other thing.. Which classes have the best white gear available to them? You might actually buy some of that white gear that some vendor sell, lol


Lol, that is all the gear upgrades that I am every going to get after about levels 10-12. White gear just really does not drop outside of instances and since I cannot go into instances...

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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby bldavis » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:18 am

im doing this on a shaman, but im thinking about doing a pally or a hunter (oo or a rogue, if i can make it high enough for recuperate!)

orcs/trolls get a dps perk as a hunter
dranei and forsaken get health regen
dwarfs get defensive cd

honestly i think it comes down to picking the right race/class combo

edit: just thought id check on say hunter weapons purchasable via vendor....
there is a 30 level gap with no new weapon from a vendor :?
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Flex » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:37 am

poptart wrote:Yeah, that is the "sticking point" IMO for taking any of the hybrid classes; their abilites are really geared off of making that level 10 specialization choice.


Eh, Paladins are fairly well off. Pick ret and nothing really lives long enough for you to use Templer's Verdict. Prot is unneeded for leveling, Holy gets a spell power based attack and a no cooldown Word of Glory which would actually be the best for this challenge since Word of Glory doesn't require mana.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby bldavis » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:49 am

the problem with that is you cant pick a talent spec even
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Kelaan » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:00 am

poptart wrote:This is going to be interesting. I need to research as to how often and at what levels Blizzard put in new, vendor purchsed "white" gear sets and plan to have the cash to purchase them; especially ranged weapons.


All white 2H/ranged weapons. (Greys don't show for some reason.)
http://www.wowhead.com/items=2?filter=qu=1;sl=15:17;si=1;ub=3;gb=1#ranged:0+3-2+1

I only included ranged weapons and polearms: presumably the burst damage from the 2H is better than extended DW action, but I could be wrong.

Items sold by a vendor:
http://www.wowhead.com/items=2?filter=qu=1;sl=15:17;si=1;ub=3;cr=92;crs=1;crv=0;gb=1#ranged:0+3+1

There may be more, it only shows 25 which I think is an artificial cutoff. You can obviously filter by level. Good call on hunter, btw, that seems to be a strong choice.
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Re: Things to do before Pandaclysm

Postby Flex » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:05 am

bldavis wrote:the problem with that is you cant pick a talent spec even


So? Base paladin abilities are fairly Holy oriented level 7 you get Holy Light, level 9 you get Word of Glory which is the most important part for a mana using hybrid class as it doesn't use your resource pool.

Leveling a hunter was the most frustrating experience I ever had until I could glyph Misdirection. But being a completely neutered hunter it might not suck as much.
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