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Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby theckhd » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:15 pm

I've run into a bug that's been irritating me for some time. When Morchok pulls everybody in at the beginning of the black ooze phase, my UI stutters and lags for a few seconds. It clears up quickly enough that I can get out, but it's irritating all the same. I'm fairly certain it's an addon causing the lag. My goal in this thread is to figure out which one.

I've noticed that at this point in the fight, the game seems to create one vehicle or pet entity for each player. If you watch Grid, a bunch of new units show up during the pull-in cast. They disappear shortly after. My assumption is that the creation/destruction of these pet or vehicle entities is what's causing the hiccup. In theory, that should narrow it down to addons that deal with unit frames, or maybe action bars (if it's a vehicle entity).

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what addons are you running? I have a list of about 200 or so to sort through, so if I can cross-reference that with a few other people it will speed up the process of elimination.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby Era » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:53 am

No lag of any kind here.

Active addons during raiding:

Bartender4 action bars
Shadowed Unit Frames (SUF)
AzCastBars
Omen
Recount
TidyPlates
MSBT (Mik's Scrolling Battle Text)
DBM (Deadly Boss Mods)
Cooldowns
Power Auras
MoveAnything
SexyMap

EDIT: To clarify, I realise you asked for people who have experienced the same issues, however one can assume that these addons are then not causing it? At least until you find someone who have experienced it.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby Epimer » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:44 am

Yes, I do get a pretty noticeable stutter then.

TukUI
Align
Bagnon_Forever
Castbars
Classtimer
Clique
DBM
Grid (+GridIndicatorCornerIcons, GridManaBars, GridStatusAurasExt, GridStatusRaidDebuff + Cata plugin, GridStatusRaidIcon, GridStatusTankCooldowns)
Hermes
Loggerhead
Omen
oUF (+ oUF_Freeb)
Parrot
SexyCooldown
SimpleRaidTargetIcons
Skada
TidyPlates
WeakAuras
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby Qeeze » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:35 am

200+ addons, really?

My guess is you simply have to many mods attempting to do similar things and that's why you're experiencing this lag.
I'd like to see a SS of your UI, and if possible a list of those 200 addons, and with that info could offer you some solutions.
I'd suggest you take a close look at what you really need, and what you can dump.

:lol: Naturally there are mods you can run to help determine that. I run Addon Control Panel to enable or disable mods without relogging.

Mostly likely culprit is Grid. Try Grid2 as it's far better if you like Grid's methods. I run Vudho myself and run a very trim version of what's shown. i.e. name, %HP, basic health bar, buffs/debuffs and a players status.

Weak Auras is by far superior to Power Auras when it comes to efficient resource usage.

I run Stuff Unit Frames and Bartender4 and DBM.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby Fashionstar » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:44 pm

Disable pet frames on your grid/raid frames/whatever, it causes the lag spike you're getting.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby theckhd » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:19 pm

Qeeze wrote:200+ addons, really?

My guess is you simply have to many mods attempting to do similar things and that's why you're experiencing this lag.

Nah, it's definitely something specific to this unit creation/deletion event. It runs smoothly everywhere else. You can see a screenshot of my UI here.

I suspect you're right about Grid, I didn't realize there was a replacement. I'll see if disabling pet frames works, and if so, maybe look into Grid2.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby warden » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:13 am

Theck,

Probably about 3/4 of our raid runs grid, and don't have these issues, but I do remember it being talked about in raid chat. If I remember, I'll ask our guild addon guru tonight; I think he's already dug into this issue.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby RedAces » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:26 am

I've got 200+ addons myself (including Grid1) and I don't have any problems at all.
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby Qeeze » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:36 am

I dumped Vuhdo and went back to Grid2, I also went back to Dominos since it uses a 1/4 of the memory Bartender4 uses & BT4 was causing taint.

I really like Leatrix Plus found here http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/i ... xPlus.html

This mod does so many small things that I want done and does them well. The max camera distance & disabling error messages alone makes this mod worth running. The tool tip does all I want from a tool tip mod. Auto turn in of dailies and the ability to move things like the Achievement frame and power alt frame is handy.

I tend to use mods by authors I know to write good, clean, and efficient code, and Leatrix is one mod author I trust. His Latency fix is one of the most downloaded files out there.

Take a look at it since it only uses memory for what you enable.


For the record I run about 50 mods and I still think that's too many :lol:
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby RedAces » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:40 am

Complete Directory List of my addons (in case you want to compare). I'm running nolib-versions so I've got every lib in an extra dir...
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!BlizzBugsSuck
!BugGrabber
Ace3
AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets
AceGUI-3.0-Spell-EditBox
ACP
AddFriend
ArkInventory
ArkInventoryRules
ArkInventoryRulesExample
AtlasLoot
AtlasLoot_BurningCrusade
AtlasLoot_Cataclysm
AtlasLoot_ClassicWoW
AtlasLoot_Crafting
AtlasLoot_Loader
AtlasLoot_WorldEvents
AtlasLoot_WrathoftheLichKing
AuctionLite
Aurora
autocombatlog
BadBoy
BalancePowerTracker
BalancePowerTracker_Log
BalancePowerTracker_Options
BalancePowerTracker_Pipe
Bartender4
BetterPowerBarAlt
BiggerTradeskillUI
BigWigs
BigWigs_Baradin
BigWigs_Bastion
BigWigs_Blackwing
BigWigs_Core
BigWigs_DragonSoul
BigWigs_Firelands
BigWigs_Foreign
BigWigs_Options
BigWigs_Plugins
BigWigs_Throne
Blipstick
Blizzard_AchievementUI
Blizzard_ArchaeologyUI
Blizzard_ArenaUI
Blizzard_AuctionUI
Blizzard_BarbershopUI
Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap
Blizzard_BindingUI
Blizzard_Calendar
Blizzard_ClientSavedVariables
Blizzard_CombatLog
Blizzard_CombatText
Blizzard_CompactRaidFrames
Blizzard_CraftUI
Blizzard_CUFProfiles
Blizzard_DebugTools
Blizzard_EncounterJournal
Blizzard_GlyphUI
Blizzard_GMChatUI
Blizzard_GMSurveyUI
Blizzard_GuildBankUI
Blizzard_GuildControlUI
Blizzard_GuildUI
Blizzard_InspectUI
Blizzard_ItemAlterationUI
Blizzard_ItemSocketingUI
Blizzard_LookingForGuildUI
Blizzard_MacroUI
Blizzard_MovePad
Blizzard_RaidUI
Blizzard_ReforgingUI
Blizzard_TalentUI
Blizzard_TimeManager
Blizzard_TokenUI
Blizzard_TradeSkillUI
Blizzard_TrainerUI
Blizzard_VoidStorageUI
Broker_Control
Broker_DurabilityInfo
Broker_SysMon
Broker_Valor
Broker_Wallet
BugSack
ButtonFacade
ButtonFacade_Diablo3
ButtonForge
CallbackHandler-1.0
Capping
Castbars
Chatter
ChocolateBar
ChocolateBar_Options
Clique
CombatCaps
CrapAway
DeathNote
Dragon Soul ExtraActionButton
Energized
Energized_Options
Examiner
FuBarPlugin-2.0
GatherMate2
GatherMate2_Data
GnomishVendorShrinker
GreedBeacon
Grid
GridIndicatorCornerIcons
GridManaBars
GridStatusControlPipes
GridStatusRaidDebuff
GridStatusRaidIcons
GridStatusRD_Cata
GridStatusRes
Hermes-UI-Bars
InlineAura
InlineAura_Config
InlineAura_Defaults
kgPanels
kgPanelsConfig
LibActionButton-1.0
LibAlts-1.0
LibBabble-Boss-3.0
LibBabble-Faction-3.0
LibBabble-Inventory-3.0
LibBabble-ItemSet-3.0
LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0
LibBabble-Zone-3.0
LibBanzai-2.0
LibBetterBlizzOptions-1.0
LibBossIDs-1.0
LibCandyBar-3.0
LibCompress
LibCrayon-3.0
libdatabroker-1-1
LibDBIcon-1.0
LibDDI-1.0
LibDispellable-1.0
LibDogTag-3.0
LibDogTag-Unit-3.0
LibDualSpec-1.0
LibFail-1.0
LibGroupTalents-1.0
LibGUIDRegistry-0.1
LibHealComm-4.0
LibJostle-3.0
LibKeyBound-1.0
LibMapData-1.0
LibPeriodicTable-3.1
LibQTip-1.0
LibQuickHealth-1.0
LibReforgingInfo-1.0
LibResComm-1.0
LibSharedMedia-3.0
LibSink-2.0
LibStatLogic-1.2
LibStub
LibTalentQuery-1.0
LibTipHooker-1.1
LibWindow-1.1
LibWrapperHealComm-1.0
LibXTools
Masque
Masque_Onyx
McDuck
MikScrollingBattleText
MogIt
MogIt_Accessories
MogIt_Cloth
MogIt_Leather
MogIt_Mail
MogIt_OneHanded
MogIt_Other
MogIt_Plate
MogIt_Ranged
MogIt_Sets
MogIt_TwoHanded
MrDressup
MSBTOptions
OmniCC
OmniCC_Config
OPie
oRA3
PallyPower
PassLoot
pError
PitBull4
PitBull4_Aggro
PitBull4_AltPowerBar
PitBull4_Aura
PitBull4_Background
PitBull4_BlankSpace
PitBull4_Border
PitBull4_CastBar
PitBull4_CastBarLatency
PitBull4_CombatFader
PitBull4_CombatIcon
PitBull4_CombatText
PitBull4_ComboPoints
PitBull4_DogTagTexts
PitBull4_DruidManaBar
PitBull4_Eclipse
PitBull4_ExperienceBar
PitBull4_HealthBar
PitBull4_HideBlizzard
PitBull4_Highlight
PitBull4_HolyPower
PitBull4_HostilityFader
PitBull4_LeaderIcon
PitBull4_LuaTexts
PitBull4_MasterLooterIcon
PitBull4_PhaseIcon
PitBull4_Portrait
PitBull4_PowerBar
PitBull4_PvPIcon
PitBull4_QuestIcon
PitBull4_RaidTargetIcon
PitBull4_RangeFader
PitBull4_ReadyCheckIcon
PitBull4_ReputationBar
PitBull4_RestIcon
PitBull4_RoleIcon
PitBull4_Runes
PitBull4_SoulShards
PitBull4_Sounds
PitBull4_ThreatBar
PitBull4_Totems
PitBull4_VengeanceBar
PitBull4_VisualHeal
PitBull4_VisualHeal4
PitBull4_VoiceIcon
Postal
RaidFinderIsWorse
RatingBuster
Raven
Raven_Options
RealIDToons
ReforgedTooltip
ReforgeLite
Routes
SexyMap
ShadowedUF_Options
ShadowedUnitFrames
SharedMedia
SharedMedia_MyMedia
SickOfClickingDailies
SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking
SignOn
Skada
SkadaAbsorbs
SkadaCC
SkadaDamage
SkadaDamageTaken
SkadaDeaths
SkadaDebuffs
SkadaDispels
SkadaEnemies
SkadaHealAbsorbs
SkadaHealing
SkadaPower
SkadaThreat
SlashIn
SocialState
SyncFriends
tabDB
tekKompare
teksLoot
ThatJustHappened
TidyPlates
TidyPlatesHub
TidyPlatesWidgets
TidyPlates_Graphite
TidyPlates_Grey
TidyPlates_Neon
TidyPlates_Quatre
TidyPlates_ThreatPlates
TimeToDie
TipTac
TipTacItemRef
TipTacOptions
TipTacTalents
TomTom
TotemTimers
Unmuter
UTF8
VendorBait
WeakAuras
WeakAurasModelPaths
WeakAurasOptions
WeakAurasTutorials
xDamageFont
XLoot1.0
XToLevel
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Re: Addon lag on Morchok - looking for data

Postby theckhd » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:13 pm

Update: It was definitely Grid. Luckily, there's a checkbox in the options for "Throttle Updates," which fixed the behavior. Grid2 didn't exhibit the same behavior, but I had trouble getting it to look the same as the original (I couldn't find the option to invert the color scheme, which irritates me).

Either way, fixT.
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