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resolve of undying

Postby Jaitee » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:04 pm

i managed to pick this thing up last night (yay!) was just curious im planning to reforge so my dodge/parry is balanced with it up since as long as im hitting stuff (which i do pretty much any time stuff is hitting me)has anyone got any arguments against doing this? or has this discussion already been had elsewhere and i just didnt see it!
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Re: undying resolve

Postby Jeremoot » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:41 pm

It's a pretty awful trinket compared to the alternatives. You could use a Stamina trinket in its place. It's not even the best trinket for CTC.
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Re: undying resolve

Postby Jaitee » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:45 pm

ive got enough stamina 200kish i think and since im CTC capped mastery trinkets are useless it gives me about 3.5% dodge i think which for fights where avoidance is nice is quite hot
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Re: undying resolve

Postby Jaitee » Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:04 pm

just spent forever getting my gear set up to have an equal dodge/parry when the trinket is fully stacked and i now have 18.33 dodge and 18.3 parry while still maintaining a 102.4% ctc this is in pretty crappy gear 385 ilvl (i had horrible luck all firelands with drops)

also found a bug with it the buff doesnt stack from crusader strike though hammer of the righteous (the physical portion only) stacks is as does AS hitting 3 targets with it leads to 3 stacks none of our other abilities appear to stack it
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Re: undying resolve

Postby Skye1013 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:02 am

Jaitee wrote:this is in pretty crappy gear 385 ilvl (i had horrible luck all firelands with drops)

My 377 feels like complete shit then.... XD Granted, I haven't done any heroic modes.
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Re: undying resolve

Postby PsiVen » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:39 pm

Jaitee wrote:ive got enough stamina 200kish i think and since im CTC capped mastery trinkets are useless it gives me about 3.5% dodge i think which for fights where avoidance is nice is quite hot


Correction: Since you're CTC capped, mastery trinkets are stamina trinkets (to a point).

The problem with this trinket is that you will want to be CTC capped without it, so it effectively throws away 300 mastery to give you that 900 dodge. I can see it being useful if you can depend on it for CTC, but I don't think it's worth the risk assuming it takes a bit to stack up fully.
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Re: undying resolve

Postby fuzzygeek » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:54 pm

Jaitee wrote:just spent forever getting my gear set up to have an equal dodge/parry when the trinket is fully stacked and i now have 18.33 dodge and 18.3 parry while still maintaining a 102.4% ctc this is in pretty crappy gear 385 ilvl (i had horrible luck all firelands with drops)


Could you link your armory? I'm curious.
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Re: undying resolve

Postby theckhd » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:24 am

Jaitee wrote:also found a bug with it the buff doesnt stack from crusader strike though hammer of the righteous (the physical portion only) stacks is as does AS hitting 3 targets with it leads to 3 stacks none of our other abilities appear to stack it


Does it stack from auto-attacks?

I mean, Awful Trinket is awful, but if it's not stacking from anything but HotR and AS then Awful Trinket is really awful.
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Re: undying resolve

Postby Jaitee » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:12 pm

theckhd wrote:
Jaitee wrote:also found a bug with it the buff doesnt stack from crusader strike though hammer of the righteous (the physical portion only) stacks is as does AS hitting 3 targets with it leads to 3 stacks none of our other abilities appear to stack it


Does it stack from auto-attacks?

I mean, Awful Trinket is awful, but if it's not stacking from anything but HotR and AS then Awful Trinket is really awful.


yeah auto attack stacks it and it still stacks pretty quick especially if i switch to HotR for the first few hits of a boss fight
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Re: undying resolve

Postby Jaitee » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:14 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:
Jaitee wrote:just spent forever getting my gear set up to have an equal dodge/parry when the trinket is fully stacked and i now have 18.33 dodge and 18.3 parry while still maintaining a 102.4% ctc this is in pretty crappy gear 385 ilvl (i had horrible luck all firelands with drops)


Could you link your armory? I'm curious.



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Re: resolve of undying

Postby Fenrìr » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:21 pm

My view on stacking trinkets is that they're bad, just like random proc ones. I like to control my trinkets and have them feel useful. I don't really want to be spending a whole fight worrying about having to be hitting something to keep the dodge up in the event I have to move or stop attacking and then need that avoidance when I have to tank again.

I'm still going to have it in my repertoire as my number 4 trinket, but I highly doubt I'm going to use it often for any progression fight.
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Re: resolve of undying

Postby Kihra » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:59 pm

Yeah I think this trinket is terribad. I even passed on it to offspecs when it dropped last week.
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Re: resolve of undying

Postby Xarlanther » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:09 am

I think it's pretty bad to.
The spirit trinket from DW was buffed after only 1 week so I am kinda hoping this one will to.
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Re: resolve of undying

Postby Paoanii » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:23 pm

Just my 0.02$ on the issue, I'm rather liking this trinket mainly because of how the values work out. I have more than enough EH for the fights im working on, so for physical damage focused fights I'm using this thing. But where it really shines is in the fact that for magic-heavy fights like yor'sahj I can swap it out for a stam trinket and use a mastery elixir+prismatic elixir for increased health and magic resistance without sacrificing full CTC. By trading the stam trinket+mastery elixir for the avoidance trinket+stam flask, I'm essentially trading 117 stam and 265 mastery for 880 dodge, a trade I'm more than willing to make for a fight like Morchok or Warmaster Blackhorn that is largely physical damage.
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Re: resolve of undying

Postby theckhd » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:23 pm

Paoanii wrote:I'm essentially trading 117 stam and 265 mastery for 880 dodge, a trade I'm more than willing to make for a fight like Morchok or Warmaster Blackhorn that is largely physical damage.


I'm not sure those are the best examples. Morchok's Stomp, which can't be dodged, hits harder than his melees on heroic mode. And about half of Blackhorn's damage is Disrupting Roar, which isn't a melee attack.
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