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MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby yappo » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:36 am

Speculations galore.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/986 ... st13408681

It's datamined, from the PTR. If you believe all is set in stone Deathwing will pay your tank a personal visit and burn all gear to cinders.

That said, start speculating.

Mine first: The gear named Valorous <whatever> could be our new off-tier VP shop.

Mine second: Bloody hell, that's a LOT of mastery there! Are they making an effort to push warriors above passive 102.4?

Mine third: Pugging old FL seems to be good for the non-raiding tank. A few nice reputation-upgrades for AoH.

Mine fourth: Cut epic gems, but no JC recipies. Sad panda here.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:19 pm

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/77206/soulshifter-vortex/
Soulshifter Vortex
Binds when picked up
Unique: Soulshifter Vortex (1)
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+687 Stamina
Requires Level 85
Item Level 397
When you deal damage you have a chance to gain 2904 mastery rating for 20 sec.


Argh.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Jeremoot » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:18 pm

fuzzygeek wrote:Argh.


My sentiments exactly.

Indomitable Pride looks awesome though.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Nikachelle » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:22 pm

Jeremoot wrote:
fuzzygeek wrote:Argh.


My sentiments exactly.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby fuzzygeek » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:29 pm

No Active-Use trinkets listed on MMO, sadly. Perhaps there'll be something via VP or Rep that'll be worthwhile.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Schroom » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:40 am

So I build a toon for Normal an Heroic DS, with gear available from 4.3 I also took FL heroic gear into consideration, just to see where we're heading. I used rawr for this. also, I am a Blacksmith and my second profession is mining. I didn't use any epic gems on purpose to keep it clean. And so you know that from this stats we can go even a bit higher.

DS Normal:

-Head: [Faceguard of Radiant Glory] Not reforged Enchant: [Arcanum of the Earthern Ring] Gems: [Eternal Shadowspirit Diamond] ; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Neck: [Guardspike Choker] Not reforged

-Schoulders: [Brackenshell Shoulderplates] 144 Dodge -> Mastery Enchant: [Greater Inscription of Unbreakable Quartz] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Back: [Indefatigable Greatcloak] 50 Exp -> Mastery Enchant: [Cloak - Protection] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Chest: [Chestguard of Radiant Glory] 110 Parry -> Dodge Enchant: [Chest - Greater Stamina] Gems: [Fine Ember Topaz]; [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Wrist: [Titanguard Wristplates] Not reforged enchant: [Bracer - Superior Dodge] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Weapon: [Souldrinker] Not reforged enchant: [Weapon - Windwalk] (gotta wait for some datamining tho if the lack of secondary stats is worth the procc)

-Shield: [Blackhorn's Mighty Bulwark] not reforged enchant: [Shield - Mastery] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Relic: [Stoutheart Talisman] 40 parry -> 40 dodge Gems: [Subtle Amberjewel]

-Hands: [Handguards of Radiant Glory] 61 Hit -> Mastery enchant: [Gloves - Greater Mastery] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Belt: [Uncrushable Belt of Fury] 61 Exp -> Parry Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald] (only FL Heroic gear piece I would keep until I hit Heroic DS)

-Legs: [Legguards of Radiant Glory] 119 Parry -> Mastery enchant: [Drakehide Leg Armor] Gems: [Fine Ember Topaz]; [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Feet: [Stillheart Warboots] 83 parry -> dodge enchant: [Boots - Mastery] Gems: [Fine Ember Topaz]; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Ring 1: [Signet of the Resolute] 72 parry -> Mastery Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Ring 2: [Hardheart Ring] 62 parry -> dodge: [Regal Dream Emerald]

Trinkets I will choose depending on the Boss mechanic but as allrounders I see those two:

Trinket 1: [Indomitable Pride]

Trinket 2: [Fire of the Deep]

Stats Raidbuffed:

Life: 228791
Armor: 43124 (62.32% reduce)
Miss: 5%
Dodge: 18.3639%
Parry: 18.4725% -> Avoidance 41.8364%
Block: 60.6004%
CTC: 102.4368%

DS HC:

-head: [Faceguard of Radiant Glory] not reforged enchant: [Arcanum of the Earthern Ring] Gems: [Eternal Shadowspirit Diamond] ; [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Neck: [Guardspike Choker] Not reforged

-Shoulders: [Brackenshell Shoulderplates] Not reforged enchant: [Greater Inscription of Unbreakable Quartz] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Back: [Indefatigable Greatcloak] 50 Exp -> Mastery enchant: [Cloak - Protection] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Chest: [Chestguard of Radiant Glory] Not reforged enchant: [Chest - Greater Stamina] Gems: [Defender's Demonseye]; [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Wrist: [Graveheart Bracers] Not reforged enchant: [Bracer - Superior Dodge] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Weapon: [Souldrinker] Not reforged enchant: [Weapon - Windwalk] (same here wait for some datamining if the lack of secondary stats is worth the procc)

-Shield: [Blackhorn's Mighty Bulwark] Not reforged enchant: [Shield - Mastery] Gems: [Subtle Amberjewel]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Relic: [Stoutheart Talisman] 40 Mastery(lol even had to dump some mastery from gear) -> 40 dodge Gems: [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Hands: [Handguards of Radiant Glory] 70 Hit -> Mastery enchant: [Gloves - Greater Mastery] Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Belt: [Goriona's Collar] 104 Dodge -> Mastery Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]


-Legs: [Legguards of Radiant Glory] 136 Parry -> Mastery enchant: [Drakehide Leg Armor] Gems:[Defender's Demonseye]; [Regal Dream Emerald]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Feet: [Stillheart Warboots] 94 parry -> dodge enchant: [Boots - Mastery] Gems: [Defender's Demonseye]; [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

-Ring 1: [Signet of the Resolute] 72 parry -> Mastery Gems: [Regal Dream Emerald]

-Ring 2: [Hardheart Ring] 71 parry -> dodge Gems: [Solid Ocean Sapphire]

Trinkets (allrounders):

Trinket 1: [Indomitable Pride]

Trinket 2: [Fire of the Deep]

Stats Raidbuffed:

Life: 250463
Armor: 44358 (62.98% reduce)
Miss: 5%
Dodge: 20.0285%
Parry: 20.0074% -> Avoidance 45.0358%
Block: 57.4629%
CTC: 102.4987%
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby econ21 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:18 am

That's a useful list, Schroom, thanks. Any chance you would be interested in adding in notes to indicate where the items come from? No worries if you aren't - readers can do the homework instead.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Skye1013 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:35 am

The items are linked, so unless people are behind filters when researching, I'd think that covers it.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Schroom » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:44 am

The items are linked, so unless people are behind filters when researching, I'd think that covers it.


exactly, I wrote this list yesterday first for my guild and posted it in our guild-forums, damn was a hell of a job do get those ptr-links working so you are welcome to use them ^^

Although I don't know if this combination is BiS. I just tried to compose the toon logicaly, tried out and used the best combo I found. Following the in my opinion best strategy after reaching block cap.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Kihra » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:47 pm

For the Heroic gear set, I would use the Curled Twilight Claw (http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=78432) over the 397 Signet of the Resolute. You can slot a +60 Stamina gem in there for 519 Stamina, you get 225 Mastery, and you can reforge the Hit to 57 Dodge. You probably couldn't take it until after all your plate DPS got it, but I think it's better.
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Schroom » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:33 pm

the thing is I already had trouble dumping mastery with this set, so taking a ring with more mastery would only make it worse. Although if you chose some EH over the avoid you are free to use it :)
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby Kihra » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:55 pm

Schroom wrote:the thing is I already had trouble dumping mastery with this set, so taking a ring with more mastery would only make it worse. Although if you chose some EH over the avoid you are free to use it :)


By the time I'm in that much 410 gear, I plan to just shed Dodge/Parry in favor of 8% Hit/26 Expertise. :)
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Re: MMO Champ, datamined gear, 4.3

Postby fuzzygeek » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:55 pm

Last night I put together a set that incorporates T12 2pc Ret/3pc Prot that exchanges 20% CTC for hard cap hit and expertise (yes, 56 expertise, and yes, horrible things are done to hit that mark). The set uses a reforged Fury of Angerforge for 128 expertise rating, which isn't optimal, but is fun because, hey, imadragon.

In late T12 it's pretty trivial to get 8/26 and preserve CTC. I may rework a set to do this for kicks, now that I think about it.

Edit: I can't quite do it. 6.06% hit, 26 Expertise, 100.39 CTC unbuffed, 15.45% dodge, 15.38% parry, 64.56% block.

The constraint is: no reforging CTC stats into hit/xpt, no gemming for hit/xpt, and must be a set I'd feel comfortable doing heroic raiding in. There's just not quite enough hit on the tanking gear. I'm a couple hundred VP short of being able to buy another set of Ret gloves to see if I can't do something with that, but I think I'd still be at 7.54% hit. Maybe swap in an Obsidium Cleaver (+0.87% hit)? Which goes over 8%. Either of those approaches would require some significant re-gemming (maybe just swapping from Bold Eyes to Fractured would suffice).

The set consists of (all sockets matched, yellow=frac, blue=puis/solid, red=fine)
T12 hat (parry->mastery)
h.Firebound Gorget (unforged (xpt))
h.T12 shoulders (unforged (hit))
h.Dreadfire Drape (unforged (hit))
h.T12 chest (dodge->mastery)
h.Bracers of the Fiery Path (parry->dodge)
h.T12 gloves (unforged)
h.Uncrushable Belt of Fury (expertise->hit)
h.T12 pants (unforged)
h.Cracked Obsidian Stompers (expertise->hit)
Adamantine Signet of the Avengers (unforged (hit))
h.Theck's Emberseal (unforged (hit))
Stay of Execution (dodge->mastery)
h.Spidersilk Spindle (unforged)
h.Mandible of Beth'tilac (unforged)
h.Shard of Torment (parry->mastery)
h.Deathclutch Figurine (unforged)

Swapping H.Mandible for n.Cleaver brings it to 6.94% hit and 99.90 CTC (still capped raidbuffed using elixirs, I think).

Swapping in a hit trinket would also make this easy, but would be breaking the rules.

It's an interesting set. I don't think I'm going to keep it -- I prefer my 17/17 setup. I'll just wear my newly minted 2p/3p set for parse hunting and tell my healers to wake up for a change :D
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